Why history has to be attributed to todays team?

[Guest justin_3d]

I find it very simplistic when people count this amount of cups a team won in the past to the present day, because i see that the tournament changes.

Like CL, and WC.

The format of the 1900's was totally different then today for WC and CL.

And this is not to hit out at any team like Real Madrid or Uruguay, but is in general.

I mean take a look at my country USA who got to 3rd place in it's first WC.

That is an insanity today!

It is why i feel that is too simplistic counting past cups that was won 100 years ago to today. If any it should be base on the format of the competition.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

I think anyone thinks its a bit simplistic, but history has power and people love to praise things that happend in the past.

[Kojo 4,676]

I feel the same with the Champions League, look how many foriegn countries have won it, even Celtic won it... But today it wouldn't happen, that's why i tell teams like Liverpool to shut up because you can't win it now. Even past division titles anyone won it to be honest.

[Spike 12,049]

What else does a team like Liverpool have?

[Guest justin_3d]

I feel the same with the Champions League, look how many foriegn countries have won it, even Celtic won it... But today it wouldn't happen, that's why i tell teams like Liverpool to shut up because you can't win it now. Even past division titles anyone won it to be honest.

:goodpost:

The format of back then made it possible. Today is freaking hard.

[Vincent 402]

'Everything was better in the past'.

I loved Chelsea much more before Abramovich entered the Bridge.

[Term-X 7,891]

'Everything was better in the past'.

It's all subjective.

[Naked Mole Rat 437]

I think anyone thinks its a bit simplistic, but history has power and people love to praise things that happend in the past.

Certainly. It kept Liverpool delusional for 21 years.

[Blue In Green 86]

Maybe it's just me, but I think this would be a better question if asked to fans of Liverpool, Nottingham Forest, West Ham...

[Kojo 4,676]

Look at the premier league, look at the winners, we've won it 3 times, that's a huge accamplishment, and it's great for our history, and we will look back on it in time to come, because right now it's the hardest thing to do. Who has actually gave the Premier League a good go?, besides Newcastle, no one has ever done it, it's always been the same teams. Liverpool gave it a good go in one season, but all they can and will ever do is look back, because they can never look forward like we can. Times have changed a lot, it's rather like Pele, Pele is a great striker and a legend in football, but no way ont his earth would he of scored the goals he did in this time right now. Since defence now is more tactically and smart, it's developed more, it's almost impossible to rip defenders apart regularly, that's why Messi gets named the best player in the world, and it's true. But personally i much prefaired Ronaldinho in his prime to Messi, since his passing was fantastic, good free kick taker, could hammer defenders and always had that special brazilian in him which most brazilian footballers carry.

This is why Liverpool supporters wind me up, they fail to realise this is today, ever since the Premier League started, that's when the competition started, now is the time where you can say we've actually done it, not ages ago when wolves won the league then bolton won it after.

[zolayes 14,489]

in footballing terms fans look back at their history when the present is bad and the future doesnt look too good either.

england 1966 the arse invincibles ...the geordies with Shearer and Wor Jackie ... the Toffees and Kendal .. spurs and Bill Nich ...Spammers with Moore .. Hurst Peters ..

we have AVB JT no need to look back ...Blue Skies ahead ...KTF

[Guest justin_3d]

in footballing terms fans look back at their history when the present is bad and the future doesnt look too good either.

england 1966 the arse invincibles ...the geordies with Shearer and Wor Jackie ... the Toffees and Kendal .. spurs and Bill Nich ...Spammers with Moore .. Hurst Peters ..

we have AVB JT no need to look back ...Blue Skies ahead ...KTF

:goodpost:

[Vincent 402]

Look at the premier league, look at the winners, we've won it 3 times, that's a huge accamplishment, and it's great for our history, and we will look back on it in time to come, because right now it's the hardest thing to do. Who has actually gave the Premier League a good go?, besides Newcastle, no one has ever done it, it's always been the same teams. Liverpool gave it a good go in one season, but all they can and will ever do is look back, because they can never look forward like we can. Times have changed a lot, it's rather like Pele, Pele is a great striker and a legend in football, but no way ont his earth would he of scored the goals he did in this time right now. Since defence now is more tactically and smart, it's developed more, it's almost impossible to rip defenders apart regularly, that's why Messi gets named the best player in the world, and it's true. But personally i much prefaired Ronaldinho in his prime to Messi, since his passing was fantastic, good free kick taker, could hammer defenders and always had that special brazilian in him which most brazilian footballers carry.

This is why Liverpool supporters wind me up, they fail to realise this is today, ever since the Premier League started, that's when the competition started, now is the time where you can say we've actually done it, not ages ago when wolves won the league then bolton won it after.

Ouch....

[Kojo 4,676]

Ouch....

Vincent please don't prove me wrong, i'm on a roll, it's true yes indeed you do have more knowlege than me, if not a lot more.