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they're not us

He's just not good enough for us anymore, I'm afraid. He's been a beast for us untill this current season, but the system is not right for him, and this team needs a higher quality player.

Actually he has been getting some praise for some time now. its not only now that people changed their opinion.

Not very good this year except for the start of the season.

Yes. I've been trying to say how much we need a world class AM but everyone is too protective of our current players that they cant see it. Yes we have great talented young AMs, but its not enough if we want to be the best team, if we want to win almost all of our games, if we want to win the league. Its really not..

Finally u guys agree that he's not very good.. (last couple of months) a few weeks ago comments like these were not to be heard here. And I still can't understand how some of you dont see why we need another world class AM ..

Both. You think Torres would score 25+ goals playing their system? On the other hand, it's not guarenteed for him to score 25+ goals in our system.

Hmm not really.. Sturridge has a case for the PFA young player of the year.

I didn't mean that Azpi is an attacking full-back, just that Shaw is. I wouldn't give up on Azpi's defense.. so we can do with one good attacking full-back.

It is quite a problem that he cant attack well. Shaw at LB and Azpi RB should be fine. For the big games you can play Azpi LB and Ivan RB. For the "small games" its absolutely crucial to have attacking full-backs.

Well said. How can some people declare this season a failure when it's not even over yet and this might possibly be our greatest season, winning the league and the CL ? We've upped our level since last year, we have one of the best managers around, some of the most promising players, a solid defense, SB is a fortress again, we have amazing spirit, players who are willing to give 200% each game, WE'RE ACTUALLY FIGHTING FOR THE LEAGUE! last season we lost it pretty early on and barely made top 4, we're in the fucking semi-finals of the CL after failing to advance from the group stages last season.. To be in this position now, I can't understand how it can be seen as a failure.

Oh yea yea, ofc he isn't a Ramires, didn't mean that.. I guess a Ballack seems right. Anyways he's very young and can probably improve on whatever the manager would want him to.

Its very important actually.. Us not having attacking full-backs is a massive flaw IMO.

Honestly I dont see him as a "great passer" either. From what I've seen he's ok at it, not a Pirlo..

nvm thought it was Torres thread.

I'm sure those rumors are absolute BS.

Is he kinda off-form this season? haven't been following really..

Reallly exciting\nevy times ahead, boys. Winning either one of the trophies would be a huge success, still there's the chance of winning nothing.

30m really sounds like too much to me.. the market has gone crazy.

Simeone said, on Onda Cero: ‘Torres is always in contact with the team to wish them luck and occasionally sends me messages. He is delighted with everything that’s happening at Atleti. ‘How could he not want to return to the club where he was born?’ He can go back if he loves them so much..

Hmm no one really seems to believe so.. We all know its gonna be difficult.

Still hurts. Who's up for some revenge ?!

Best draw we could have had IMO

Well.. I mean over 2 legs I think we have more chances against them than Real or Bayern..

I hope ATM would respect our deal