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Alright, time to end this poll!

I can`t see Sahk letting him go, they don`t need money and advanced in UCL!

CHAMPIONS OF EVERYTHING!?!?

I dont see where you are trying to get... Just because you expirienced it, does not mean you have the right to think our young fans know nothing about our history. You realise that with today's technology anyone can gather enough quality (not talking about wikipedia) information to be familiar with our history. I have met 20 years old fanatic abroad fans that know a lot more about Chelsea than 40-50 years old English fans. Worst than that, what does it have to do with EL? It has absolutely nothing to do with being old or young. We are not counting history, we are analysing our current situation and it should not correspond to an EL Qualification. The amount of money we have invested in the last decate should have made it an obligation to fight for UCL (which we have done every single year). I realise we are in transition mode and we fell with dignity, but trying to make EL an important competition for the current status of the club is laughable. YES! Before Roman, it was better than we usually fought for, but at this moment our inspirations have rise significantly. No one is diminishing or forgetting our past, but football is a momentarily science. Back in time, this would not be close to failure. The present (and money) shows us an exit in the group stage is considerated a failure, though. Europa League is a very welcomed trophy, but it should not be placed as an important objective. It takes away your focus out of EPL, it does not bring you money, it can be shameful (if we lose for a pub team), etc.

@, wanna play FIFA? PS: I am not at home...

This should be posted under Fernando Torres Thread, no need to create another topic...

2nd most expensive? :banghead:

Possibilities for UCL second round: Paris Saint-Germain Paris Saint-Germain x Arsenal Paris Saint-Germain x Milan Paris Saint-Germain x Real Madrid Paris Saint-Germain x Shakhtar Donetsk Paris Saint-Germain x Valencia Paris Saint-Germain x Celtic Paris Saint-Germain x Galatasaray Schalke Schalke x Porto Schalke x Milan Schalke x Real Madrid Schalke x Shakhtar Donetsk Schalke x Valencia Schalke x Celtic Schalke x Galatasaray Málaga Málaga x Porto Málaga x Arsenal Málaga x Shakhtar Donetsk Málaga x Celtic Málaga x Galatasaray Borussia Dortmund Borussia Dortmund x Porto Borussia Dortmund x Arsenal Borussia Dortmund x Milan Borussia Dortmund x Shakhtar Donetsk Borussia Dortmund x Valencia Borussia Dortmund x Celtic Borussia Dortmund x Galatasaray Juventus Juventus x Valencia Juventus x Celtic Juventus x Galatasaray Juventus x Porto Juventus x Arsenal Juventus x Real Madrid Bayern de Munique Bayern de Munique x Celtic Bayern de Munique x Galatasaray Bayern de Munique x Porto Bayern de Munique x Arsenal Bayern de Munique x Milan Bayern de Munique x Real Madrid Bayern de Munique x Shakhtar Donetsk Barcelona Barcelona x Galatasaray Barcelona x Porto Barcelona x Arsenal Barcelona x Milan Barcelona x Shakhtar Donetsk Manchester United Manchester United x Porto Manchester United x Milan Manchester United x Real Madrid Manchester United x Shakhtar Donetsk Manchester United x Valencia Manchester United x Celtic Porto Porto x Schalke Porto x Málaga Porto x Borussia Dortmund Porto x Juventus Porto x Bayern de Munique Porto x Barcelona Porto x Manchester United Arsenal Arsenal x Málaga Arsenal x Borussia Dortmund Arsenal x Juventus Arsenal x Bayern de Munique Arsenal x Barcelona Arsenal x Paris Saint-Germain Milan Milan x Borussia Dortmund Milan x Bayern de Munique Milan x Barcelona Milan x Manchester United Milan x Paris Saint-Germain Milan x Schalke Real Madrid Real Madrid x Juventus Real Madrid x Bayern de Munique Real Madrid x Manchester United Real Madrid x Paris Saint-Germain Real Madrid x Schalke Shakhtar Donetsk Shakhtar Donetsk x Bayern de Munique Shakhtar Donetsk x Barcelona Shakhtar Donetsk x Manchester United Shakhtar Donetsk x Paris Saint-Germain Shakhtar Donetsk x Schalke Shakhtar Donetsk x Málaga Shakhtar Donetsk x Borussia Dortmund Valencia Valencia x Manchester United Valencia x Paris Saint-Germain Valencia x Schalke Valencia x Borussia Dortmund Valencia x Juventus Celtic Celtic x Manchester United Celtic x Paris Saint-Germain Celtic x Schalke Celtic x Málaga Celtic x Borussia Dortmund Celtic x Juventus Celtic x Bayern de Munique Galatasaray Galatasaray x Paris-Saint Germain Galatasaray x Schalke Galatasaray x Málaga Galatasaray x Borussia Dortmund Galatasaray x Juventus Galatasaray x Bayern de Munique Galatasaray x Barcelona

The rivalry in Brazil is one of the most amazing things!

I thought EL was the merge of Winners Cup and UEFA Cup (I could be wrong). It has characteristics of both competitions...

LoL You get my point...

Yes, but who said we will be in the final? It is more than plausable to be Chelsea and Corinthians, but anything could happen.

Not seeking entertainment my friend. I want Manure, Juve, Milan and Arse to go out as soon as possible.

I hope they get Manure or Juve! I pray for something like BVB vs Milan and Barcelona vs Arse.

I personally dont like this competition. It does not bring money, publicity, technical challenge and it does bring fatigue, unpreparedness, distraction, prank, shame (if you dont win it). For me it is more of a punishment then a consolation prize. Have said that, it is not like I dont want us to win it. It would be awesome to travel to Amsterdan Arena, I just think it should be placed as our least important objective and we must not risk losing any point by focusing in Europa League.

SO TRUE!

There is only one Rafa, one Henrique, one Jose, one Zolayes, one Pep, etc.... I dont get it.

Seriously Kez? We have won it twice.

Not really, just when we were up 3-1. This is not a match to judge any of our players.

I thought Hazard had a good game, not MOTM. Hazard even lost the first pk... I think Luiz and Torres had a great game overall, dispite the lack of defensive dificulty and easy goals.

Chelsea vs Ulsan Hyundai / Monterrey 13/12 19:30 (Japan) Final (CFC vs Corinthians) 16/12 19:30 (Japan) U$ 5mi

I find stupid that away goal counts more than goal difference in the group stage. However, Shakhtar did deserved more than us. We had a terrible form in UCL: 2-2 vs Juve, Moses last minute vs Shak and 3-0 at Turin.

Was not expecting Hazard to receive so many votes. For me, it is a clear battle between Luiz and Torres. By far...

I mind playing Europa League, I prefer us to donate our place to Nords. It only makes the squad distracted and tired, if we had not won it before I would be happy, but we have...

Moses is Nords best CB