Stingray

Right. read a bit first then to figure out the "whatever it was". Ive been following this conflict before you were born probably- sigh. It started the 5th of june with a surprise attack on Egyptian airfields. Quite contrary to popular beliefs, it was no Israeli David versus Goliath. More and more people (eg. General Peled who was in charge of that war, the new historians in Israel and many more) Also, you miss context before those six days in june, the context of zionism, the aftermath leading to both intifadas. Its quite painful to see. I dont bring a one sided argument whatsoever. I brought all the historians facts throughout the thread, awarded documentaries from both sides, scientific Paper from both Israëli's as palestinians, UN reports, independent Human right watchers etc. You just brainfart slogans and meaningless bs. You are an ignoramus. Bye bye sir. I mean this in a thoroughly unemotional though unrespectful way. Plz just block my posts if you cannot handle a debate based on facts or if you dont brother reading what people (as i have) have written with facts, nuances galore.

Im sure you did! Imperialist! Nazi!

And you ignore ALL the other points made. Also, no there was a unilateral resolution to divide the land, but plan Dalet started, which had the goal to expanderen beyond the borders of the original divisionist plan. See the Israeli historian Benny Morris and Ari Zavit http://www.logosjournal.com/morris.htm Seconden: because annexing countries has been around for ever, that does not make it right. Also: they didnt just take land ([and keep taking it) they put an entire people in a prison camp (Gaza), from which there is NO escape, and perform an ethnoc cleansing of the territory to get all the fertile lands - in the proces killing everyone in that open air prison. I hope you know the average age in Gaza is 17. Now please, answer my points as well.

8100 posts now!

Amen. The BS going here is too damn high!

The banality of evil ....... No defending this utter crap!

'6 days in june' is also a must see I believe. Very good factually. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YZYBUdzJuqI

IDF used fabricated pictures to justify Al Wafa hospital bombing .... Obviously no covering up going on, sigh .... Meanwhile, people are blaming the Palestinians for not accepting the unilateral cease fire by their proxy egypt (because it include setting up a israelian safety parameter, thus moving further into palestinian territory - much forgotten fact) Now, we have a new cease fire in effect, while Israel keeps firing. It begs the question, really ....

1. Incredibly simplistic. If americans did what they did to the native americans in this time, it would be called mass genocide. This is why what Israel does is unethical. 2. Also: Israel has NO sovereignity over the lands it claims now from the palestinians. Thats the entire point. They have been convicted by the United Nations dozens of times for it, but they just keep taking land by means of settlers that are protected by the army. You seem to forget that people just get bootee out of their houses for decades, even before Hamas. 3. Israel creates terrorism. Even Sin Beth (Israeli secret service) heads admitted to in the famous Oscar winning documentary "the gatekeepers". They released the head of Hammas Ahmed Yassin (who had a life sententie btw) during the peace talks out of jail just to make sure PLO and Arafats peace talks would fail. 4. Hamas originated from a clarity organisation called Mujama al-Islamiya. It became radical because of what Israel did, not the other way around. 5. If you have children, like I do, and someone takes your land and robs your children from a future including military action hurting them, i would shoot Rockets up your ass so fast you couldnt even count to 1. Dont say, its because of the terrorists, israel was doing that even before the start of terrorism (eg. the hijacking of bus 300 in the seventies out of protest- where the palestinian hijackers were arrested and afterwards brutally killed in could blood) how do you think that affects a people? Or the famous tactic of 'breaking' palestinian protesters in the 80's, which was done with sticks, Stones, gun handles and quite literally standaard procedure (this is also documented btw) Get your head out of the propaganda mate.

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Lol! You say that every time to me. Why is that, my friend?

If it would be Belgium, the palestinians who lived in Belgium originally and before the dictate of 1948 would be cramped up on a space the size of almost Ghent and Antwerp after decades of war where we claimed all of the land despite International regulations. We would trap them near the sea, and cut them off of the rest of the world by barb wire, fences, control posts and many more. Then we would bomb the shit out of that very limited space, destroying entire blocks with our very precies 1 ton killer bombs we got through financial support of our bidders, the USA, land of hope and glory. We would be very surprised when those pesky Palestinians dared to shoot rockets back and pursue some kind of guerilla war fare. Even be so desperate to have those idiotic suïcide bombers. How dare they! Do they think they are japanese Kamikazes or what? The terrorist assholes! The only option we would have left when dealing with such war crimes, is not only take out Hamas (which incidentally we helpen create to counter PLO and Arafat who was too powerful at the time) but kill everyone inside that territory. To the media we will keep reporting all those horrible warcrimes committee by Hamas. If we repeat it often enough, they will eventually believe it and we can go back and visit our beautiful belgian coast. Yeaaaah! Ps: my buddy is currently an officer in the UN anti mining unit in Lebanon, he told me the IDF likes to put mines there with all those beautiful colours kids find attractive. You see how friendly they are, they even cater for kids.

Amateur noobs. I've grown my own plants for decades.

Won't that be boring?

So, your from Be'er Sheva. I understand your retorics a bit better now. http://972mag.com/beer-sheva-a-city-with-no-refuge-from-rockets/93537/ Which one of them are you? You do realise your IDF facebook/twitter world and posts are getting more and more marginalised. The world looks upon Israels actions more and more as pure immorality. As I said, i will question you as an individual - you vehemently support them - when the current actions are qualified as war crimes. In my town, noone escaped after we were freed from germans and after the shoah came through. All who participated preaching violence where simply shot. Think about it....

Who the FUCK is this WHS guy?? And why does he get a hot seat while noobe asked me? Cap's- deep chocolate- FuttBucker mate much? Ps: WHS : wanna have a beer sometimes mate?

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Funny thing is that you are posting the real nasty stuff about other religions. They should ban you mr islamophobe troll.

Cap, dont you think its time we got to know each other?

Some mentioned the book here and as a collectioner i got a first print of the horrible thing( i got a darwin first print as well amonf many others, so no antisemitism crap please.) But i have actually read it - i got it from my grandfather who was on the kamps for two years and thought i needed to know history, as we all should. Mein Kampf and the roll out was just that: methodological, functional, correct according to those inside the country and efficient like never before. Its really scary and im not even laughing a bit!

It doesnt make them one shred more ethical, which is the crux of the debate.

Lol burned!

Nah, I doubted but then i would have to be circumcised (its sooooo small even with that piece still on it!).

Im in Sardinia for three weeks with no wifi!!! Only a beach and italians .... Sniff!!!

I just sharted myself. Close but no cigar with the antisemitism. Its about a country, its actions and its ideology leading to those actions. Not a religious group. It has been repeated like a broken record on here.