Ok. I am done with the insulting myself. You do realise that classifying people on here into dumb, haters, pig ignorant prejudiced consumers and even plastic fans is so much closer to racism than expressing a criticism on a forum will ever be. The mere fact of labbeling a group like this and attaching moral attributes to them while throwing around some insults - not based on ethnic status but based on opinion is in the same category as racism, sir. Especially since the facts do not seems to support your view but theirs, on Torres and on Rafa. You might say stats and data is nothng to go by, but then ... what is, I ask you? Your personal preference for the two, perhaps? Edit: one should always beware for people who use moral outrage as a means of debate. That is my opinion.