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Calm down about Drake ffs. He's Canadian. Canadians and Americans follow Basketball teams. They often have jerseys of players from all different basketball teams. It'd be an honour to have a signed Heats jersey just as it would to have a signed Lakers jersey. A lot of them also 'follow' a different team each season. You can't actually expect the majority of celebrities outside of the UK who say they 'support' or 'like' Chelsea to genuinely give a shit about us surely? He's an awful artist with no relevance to us.

That's one less thing for people to argue about on here!

Hig is like a better version of Gomez. Don't want. Would rather spunk our budget on Cavani still.

Let's sign Eto'o.

When I see Mikel play I get the image in my head of a slightly retarded dog who's trying to impress his owner during a game of frisby but can't find the frisby disk right in front of him.

That's really condescending, untrue and unfair. Get your point across without insulting and generalising people.

Why why why is a loan being suggested again and again? He wasn't good enough this season. You either see how he does this pre-season and think "Ok, maybe Jose could do something with him" or sell him and accept this one as a miss. Where is logic in a loan? Will he come back the following season as a German Hazard because he got playing time at Fulham interchanging with Duff? He'd come back 25 years old with Hazard and Schurrle (probably) still ahead of him in the pecking order. So again, why a loan?

He'll start off on a wage higher than Mata's, wow.

*sigh* ^^ - http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/06/12/chelsea-close-to-completing-25m-deal-to-sign-fiorentina-striker-stevan-jovetic/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+caughtoffside%2FSXbH+%28CaughtOffside.com%29

Defensive midfielders are a thing of the past IMO. Neither Alonso or Khedira are holding midfielders. One's a playmaker, one is a box-to-box player. Schweinsteiger is more like a playmaker who can tackle (Like Alonso) and although he goes forward much less than Khedira, Martinez ventures forward much more than what a blueprint of a defensive midfielder would. Arteta and Wilshere are both playmakers who can tackle, which when combined with yet another playmaker right in front of them (Cazorla/Rosicky), makes them such a lovely team to watch. Gundogan is a playmaker who can tackle, often paired with Bender who's certainly more of a box-to-box midfielder than a holding player; only he's told to restrict his runs forward clearly. I don't want a Makelele type player anymore, I don't want a Mikel, I don't want a Busquets (even he acts like a playmaker often). We need to be more inventive or be 'hip' and follow the trend other teams are starting to take on. Even United often play a 4-2-3-1 like us (It's a myth that they always play 4-4-2; a myth some idiots believe in), especially last season when it was like - Scholes, Carrick; Valencia, Rooney, Kagawa; RVP - and they do that without typical defensive midfielders. Both Scholes and Carrick are again playmakers. It's no coincidence that these teams (or pairings) I've listed are probably the most devastating when it comes to attacking efficiency in world football and they don't use holding midfielders. Even Juventus have a bloody playmaker deep in the form of Pirlo who's an average tackler which works since he has such hard working players around him. 0 defensive midfielders there. We need to change our 4-2-3-1 if we stick to it and alter the 2 defense-minded player pairing drastically.

A 4-3-3 doesn't always mean a defensive midfielder with 2 central midfielders. A 4-3-3 would work fine for us. Look at Arsenal's 4-3-3. They often have Arteta - Wilshere sitting, with Cazorla just slightly ahead of them in a deeper no'10 role (where Mata in theory would play). It's not a 4-2-3-1, but it's similar. Really though, when you break it down, there isn't much difference between the 2 formations.

When did he actually say this? Anyway 'happiness' seems to be getting used a lot by him now and I'm really glad. It's a good mindset to be in and will rub off on the players definitely.

I don't give a shit if he's been first choice under loads of managers. So was Bosingwa.

So, that credit to Emenalo earlier...

Extremely overhyped. I watched just about every Schalke game last season and he had a purple patch towards the end of the season. He's not stand-out at anything apart from long-shots really. Max Meyer is Schalke's real talent.

No, no he didn't.

Well he's not. We haven't signed him so we don't know his fee. It's been £20m, £17m and £14m just this past week.

No point in him staying at Atletico for 'being loved'. They're absolutely horribly run and in a terrible financial state. If he signed there on a perm deal he'd be sold within 2 seasons.

We now have - Hazard, Mata, Oscar, De Bruyne, Moses, Marin, Piazon & Kakuta all able to fill those wing/attacking roles. You can even put in Ramires as an option on the wing when we're desperate. Kakuta will likely be sold/loaned out and Piazon probably loaned out, but I believe Marin will be given another season. So - Hazard, Mata, Oscar, De Bruyne, Moses, Marin, Ramires. I no longer think that "His signing is for depth" can be a valid argument especially if it does end up being around that £20m figure. You pay that figure for starters, not 1 depth option, especially when there's already depth. I'm really curious to see how Marin would perform under Mourinho. He actually has a really good (and perhaps overly-eager) work rate and would compliment someone like De Bruyne out wide and Oscar in the middle I think.

I didn't say I don't want Cavani. Look through these pages, I'm the main one pushing for this deal I said I don't want players here who're coming to Chelsea solely to work with Mourinho; similarly how Bundesliga followers are berating Lewandowski for allegedly wanting the move to Bayern simply to work under Guardiola. I want players coming to Chelsea because they want to play for Chelsea. Of course the quote was fake but it showed a mentality which some players do indeed have, and since it was posted in this thread, I posted my reaction to the quote in this thread. Has Cavani said he'd only go to Chelsea because Mourinho's here? If he hasn't then what I said can't be applied to him and thus shouldn't be discussed as-if i'm being cynical about a player I didn't even mention. I nor anyone else said that but a large chunk of players, in my opinion, would. This isn't something you can say with conviction though unless you've gone around actually asking professional footballers whether they'd play for our crest or not. This is just your assumption. What I said wasn't an assumption. I said what I want - which is players to play for us because of who we are and not who manages us. We were a top 5 Premier League team though so plenty players Cavani's age, if they were exposed to the Premier League, could have chosen to follow us just like many currently choose Tottenham or Everton as they always look to improve despite being considered underdogs. That's what we were. We weren't exactly Notts County when Cavani was growing up. We were knocking the likes of Barcelona and Madrid out of competitions way back then. Just like how some English natives whose first club is Chelsea decide at a young age to follow a team like Real Sociedad or Fiorentina abroad. There's no reason why plenty of people didn't do that when they were younger with us.

Well 1: I'm fully aware. I wasn't referring to the quote. I was talking in general since it does seem the consensus that it would be Mourinho to sway him coming to Stamford Bridge. 2: He's also said he'd love to play for Madrid, Juventus, even Inter Milan. 3: I didn't say anything regarding most players coming here to play for the badge, but if we're throwing around 'deluded' I think you underestimate how much we've grown as a club - you're deluded. We're no longer just a place to earn cash. We're now "That team who won the Champions League and all those trophies in the 2000's". We're that team youngsters like Lukaku, Dzagoev, plenty of other talented youngsters now grow up supporting and dream of playing for. Plenty players would play for Juventus, Manchester United, Real Madrid etc. even if they were fallen giants. The same thing happens at Liverpool. Players consider it an honour to play there because of their past. People go to those clubs because of the badge on their crest. We're no different. We're not PSG. We're not Manchester City. Again and finally, I wasn't referring to the quote. If i was i would have actually quoted it and responded to it. Cavani was a good example for what I wanted to say and it seemed like a decent opportunity as what I wanted to say was fresh in my mind. Also isn't you saying "You're deluded if you think most players come to Chelsea because they want to "wear the badge" cynical? No players have come out and said "I don't want to play for Chelsea's badge, that is beneath me; It's strictly money." So where do you get that from? Why do you think they don't come here for the badge?

You have to feel just slightly sorry for Iniesta's anus after that rape from Mourinho.

I don't want players here because they want to work with Mourinho. I want players here because they want to wear our badge regardless whether Mou is here or not.

Both Lukaku and De Bruyne are ready for our squad

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