just to add: 'moaning', however negative it may come across as, generally has thought behind it, and is always driven by an opinion at the end of the day that the user is trying to express, which is what forums are for (if not to stay informed, but i think this forum is more-so for the former.) this weird mockery is the closest thing to trolling since people saying Fernando Torres still 'had it'. what on earth has any of it added to the topic? I only say this, because the positivity brigade i refer to, eg; anyone blindly lambasting anybody to say something which contrasts the popular opinion, continue to go unchecked - because of course they're in the majority. but it doesn't take balls to be a sheep and bah like the rest. at the end of the day, not allowing negativity to be expressed is inhumane. to make an effort to mock or bring down those who are negative, which is usually not a choice but just how a person is, is beyond childish. maybe the moaning will quit when things are more fair. Now that was overdue.