Chelsea Legend 11

I'll never stop... only a moron continues to comment on something he/she knows nothing about. This is the DIEGO COSTA thread, you don't even know who he is...

Dude you need to go lie down, you clearly aren't on top of this situation. Just go post in the Mikel thread you're not up to speed on this one.

Diego Costa is 25. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Costa And for me a striker hits his prime at 25, the reason you can't look back and see him score boatloads is because these are the years that those sorts of performances start to happen. Look at Cavani and Falcao for more evidence.

No way to ever know that. The thing is if he does have another season like this and we don't sign him the price is now double.

First of all I'm not on board with this. If Falcao comes back and has a good WC he won't be sold for 25M you can bank on that

I wouldn't put it past the club, most of the transfers we've been linked to are hinted at months in advance and consummated well after the fact.

You asked if we were linked with him. Nothing more... Until a bid is submitted there will never be anything credible.

http://talksport.com...ent-13111868562 http://talksport.com...der-13121772219 http://metro.co.uk/2...y-cole-4192376/ Chelsea are in advanced stages of negotiation with #Wolfsburg over leftback Ricardo Rodriguez after agreeing to sell KDB (Tuttomercato)

No footballer is as influential to a team's outlook as Yaya Toure. Silva is NOT the leagues best playmaker, he is very good though! And besides you're missing the point, I'm not talking about widespread appeal I'm talking about selling the game abroad and in the packages you rarely if ever see the footballer who many regard as one of the best in the world. You ask Ferdinand if there is any sort of racist undertone in the league.

Actually we have been linked.

Yup I agree. Precisely why I think Lukaku is about 3-4 yrs away. He's good, but not high end talent good as yet.

His touch is one thing, how he uses his size and plays with his back to goal is another. Doesn't need a deft touch but does need to be better at holding up the ball and playing to his size. His technique doesn't look good but you wouldn't notice it as much if he played to what his perceived strengths are.

femoral bicep tear. Proceed with caution, Chelsea....

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9327022/world-cup-diego-costas-hopes-of-making-spain-squad-in-doubt

I love Lukaku and want him back at the club but he has a long way to go in terms of being the striker we need him to be. His touch is really poor and doesn't really use his body well enough either. I'd say he's still about 3-4yrs away from being the type of striker the is feared. His body is mature, his footballing ability still immature in my amateur opinion

Of course!

Is this something that can be scouted?

I'm pretty sure I've said as much 5-10 pages ago. Love Shaw but not at the ridiculous price tag of 30m. END OF ARGUMENT.

I'm reading this and immediately rolled my eyes because I believe you know the answer and refuse to give it. Shaw is not worth 30m, Rodriguez at 16m is a lot more digestible, if he flops its not a huge financial commitment. I have no idea why you are holding onto this strawman argument, its as clear as day! LUKE SHAW IS OVERPRICED!! You don't spend 30m on potential with FFP being implemented He has to show that he is worthy of such a commitment REGARDLESS of where he was born and who he supported growing up!! He is a good, young English prospect, he doesn't have WORLD BEATER written all over him!! If Shaw were available at the same price as Rodriguez it would give me something to think about at current its a no brainer... Rodriguez is further developed and showing skill level that is on par with what we need at LB, this isn't a debate, Shaw is an unknown quality, he could be better than Ricardo in 10 yrs but there is no way to know that is there?

Is Shaw worth twice as much as Rodriguez? that is the only question you need to answer everything else is just useless.

So because someone shows promise as a teenager it makes them a 30m player? I'm hoping we're dealing with £ not € everything I've read has Ricardo rated at €18-20m(£15-16m). And yes given what I've seen he's worth every penny. Shaw is nothing close to a lock, he is just another in the long list of potential English talent. If we pay 32m for Hazard I see no reason in paying 30m for Shaw... Just doesn't make any sort of financial sense at all. You like him because he's English and is young, likes Chelsea, I have no attachment to the player's origin only to the skill and right now Luke Shaw looks nothing close to a 30m player and there's no guarantee he will ever look like it.

Why does that even matter? Maybe I should've been more specific. I mean Chelsea should look to develop from within rather than purchase English players for prices similar to what we paid for Hazard.

Wait. Is Andy Carroll not English? Did he not prove at Newcastle he could handle the league? Why is it ridiculous? If Shaw goes for 30m it will be considered as sizeable as Carroll's deal. What has Shaw done to warrant being worthy of a 30m price tag and to be good enough to play on a top 5 team in the world? Being English is not enough for me. If you're worried about the homegrown quota it only states that they need to be in your 25-man roster doesn't say you have to pay over the odds to acquire them and play them in every game. If Shaw had a reasonable price tag I would prefer him to Rodriguez on account that he loves Chelsea and is homegrown. I refuse to buy into the idea that Chelsea should pay this ridiculous "English tax" especially when England do not produce incredible talent and when we have an academy that is developing some nice looking players. Homegrown talent is better off being club trained than it is purchased, especially when teams like Southampton think someone like Shaw is worth 30m.

A pogba - matic partnership would dominate almost every midfield in the world. Hell Pogba, Matic, Ramires would be a fucking midfield DYNAMO! It almost makes too much sense for Chelsea not to at least submit a bid. I wouldn't flinch at the idea of taking every penny from the David Luiz sale and throwing it at Juventus. 48m is a heck of a lot of cash! They would have to at least entertain it.

I'm gonna say this one more time before I start to hit the ignore list.... Take it with a grain of salt. I've watched both Rodriguez and Shaw and there is no comparison between the two in terms of skill set. Luke Shaw has better composure and seems to play without pressure, I like that about him and said as much a few pages ago. I terms of technique and ball skills Rodriguez is without a doubt the better footballer. Shaw hasn't shown me much of anything going forward and hasn't really shown he can pick a pass or boss a flank. The Shaw hype machine is in overdrive because he's English and comes from a reputable academy. England has made a habit of overhyping their new young stars and next to none of them fulfill the presumed potential. I like Shaw, I hope he proves me wrong don't want him for 30m as I have a feeling it will end up looking like the Andy Carroll signing.