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A source called 'Sports Unlimited' that gets quoted on msn.com is about as shitty as sources come though. 😂

Too many? No rumors other than a comunicado oficial is going to be enough here. I want to see a club statement by noon tomorrow.

I'm pretty sure Maatsen, Chalobah and Broja will already fetch minimum £70-80M between them 'financial crisis' or not. Also quite sure the Hall sale to Newcastle will only officially go through in the summer so that's another £28M. The exact same 'financial crisis' sensationalism was happening this time a year ago as well. People were foaming at the mouth from the prospect of having their clubs poach the likes of Mount, Colwill etc. on the cheap because of this 'financial crisis' but in the end not a single player got sold the club didn't actually want to sell and the buyers for Mount, Havertz etc. were made to pay through the nose too.

An upgrade over Broja, based on what exactly? Duran has been at Villa for a year and has fuck all to show for it. He's absolutely no more proven or better than Broja, just another inexperienced raw youngster in a long line of many.

When exactly would you have expected him to improve on those said strengths and weaknesses? During the measly 1000 or so minutes (all comps) he's actually played club footall since the Soton loan or during the 10 month spell he spent nursing a knee injury?

Ben Yedder is an alleged rapist though.

This guy has also been heavily rumored to be on his way to Man City. Getting him to Strasbourg would be a big coup.

Why would the club even entertain the idea of selling Badiashile? To me he looked quite good whenever he's played, even during the cluster fuck of the 22/23 season. Maybe he's a bit rash at times but I for one have really liked his aggressive playing style. He just got dealt a bad hand when he got injured and missed out on the entirety of pre-season and was always going to play catch-up when he got back to match fitness. Granted he's more of an LCB rather than the role Silva plays on the right side of the central defense but still with Silva pushing 40 it would be bizarre to lose BB now and selling him would just force us back on the CB market once again for absolutely no reason.

The full article says the negotiations for Riyadh Air are for next season and the IA sponsor for this year is still on.

First couple of months in the PL under Potter, going from his appointment till the mid-season World Cup break. Games played: 8 xG: 8,40 (18th in the league) Goals scored: 9 (14th in the league) xGA: 12.71 (11th in the league) Goals against: 3 (3rd in the league) So yeah, the stats were shite too. After the World Cup till Potter's eventual sacking the numbers did get slightly better to indicate some improvement in the performances but even then the offensive numbers still weren't great compared to the best teams in the league but rather maybe somewhere around 8-10th in the league. It was only the defending that improved significantly in the second half of Potter's reign with both xGA and actual goals against being among the top3-4 in the league but that just wasn't enough when nothing was going our way in attack. Not overly worried about things right now. The loss against Forest was terrible and I thought Poch's tactics were cowardly (Chilly at LW) but there were still plenty enough opportunities to win the game. If performances stay like this, things are absolutely guaranteed to get better. It was always going to take a bit of time for things to start clicking with half the team being new arrivals and a new manager in charge too.

Here's an article from Ornstein for the Athletic when Maatsen first joined Burnley on loan last year: https://theathletic.com/4165877/2022/07/13/burnley-agree-deal-to-sign-ian-maatsen-on-season-long-loan-from-Chelsea/?amp=1 It says the club hold an option to extend Maatsen till 2025 so no panic there.

I think the more important factor rather than the loan fee was that United insisted on a break clause for January. If he turned out shite for them too and in January they had Shaw and Malacia back from their injuries they'd 100% have sent him back while we'd have preferred to have his salary off the books for the whole season.

I think incomings are done after Palmer gets announced but still lots to do with outgoings. Lukaku seems done already but Cucurella, CHO, Sarr, Chalobah need some moves sorted out plus some loans for the youngsters (Washington, Burstow etc.)

Would probably be good for Chelsea but that just feels wrong tbh. Sporting are a great club in their own right so reducing them to being a feeder/satellite club for Chelsea would be terrible in the larger scheme of things. Can't say I'd be in favor of something like that.

But he was the most expensive goalkeeper in the world at the time (and still is) so I'm sure him and his agent sensed their chance to negotiate an outrageous contract. Palmer is a kid who has a lot of potential but who hasn't shown anything in his career yet. From all the signings we've made in January and this summer I would think only Enzo, Caicedo and Nkunku are earning more than £150K a week and the lest on considerably less than that. Do you really think Palmer belongs in the upper salary bracket with the other three and not with the likes of Gusto, Madueke, Jackson etc.?

The inbred cunts over there on Bluemoon seem to have a consensus Palmer is getting £150K a week on an 8 year deal from Chelsea compared to just £10K/wk he was on at City. 😂 No doubt he's due a big raise over his current salary but whoever believes he's getting 15x his previous wage is dumb as a rock.

We're not going to be of any threat to City in the short term but surely anyone looking at the squad we're building should think we could be onto something eventually. Chilwell, Colwill, Badiashile, James, Gusto, Enzo, Caicedo, Lavia, Nkunku, Sterling, Jackson etc. is a great core for the next years IMO. There are still some question marks over long term suitability and quality of our GKs, RCBs and some of the wingers but at this point in the project that's to be expected.

Can't say I know too much about Cole Palmer because I don't watch City much and he's hardly played for them anyway, despite being on the bench for most games these last couple of seasons. But any young player who's been training under Pep for a couple of years can't be terrible or else he'd have been shipped out or demoted back to the Dev squad a long time ago. If City are willing to sell him on a reasonable price and his wages are low-ish, it could be worth a gamble. If it worked out we'd have gotten a talented English player on the cheap and embarrassed City in the process, but if he was mediocre he could just be shipped out to a West Ham or something along those lines later on without too much of a hassle. Let's see how it goes.

The reports are saying we're after £7M as a loan-fee. It's not quite enough to cover his amortisation value (£9.5M) but not too far off either. Even if United haggle a few mill off the loan fee, getting Cucurella's big £9M/y salary off the books for the season would be the biggest upside here. Even a £4M loan fee and having United pay his wages would save us around £13M for the season. Maatsen's salary is quite small so counting him in the saving would still amount to more than £10M overall. Next year Cucurella's remaining book value would be £37M. If he has a decent season out on loan it could be possible to sell him for £30-35M or just ship him out on loan at similar terms and try again in 2025. Either way getting him out now would be a big financial help in the short term and would probably make it easier to get rid of him on a permanent deal later on so I'm all for it. At the start of the summer I thought that even if he's expensive, keeping Cucurella wouldn't be that much of a catastrophe squad quality -wise (and I still think that) but when Maatsen can offer just the same output as he does while being much cheaper, it makes all sense to get rid of Cucu if at all possible.

Felix only started whoring after Barca when multiple top clubs had already rejected the idea of signing him.

In what world is ESR 'ceiling' higher than Mount's? Mount is only one year older than him and has more than double the amount of goal contributions for Chelsea (33G+37A) than ESR does for Arsenal (18G+11A) in roughly the double amount of games/minutes. Mount has also made an actual difference in the UCL and has been a regular part of the England setup since he was 20 while ESR at 23 is still just all fart no poo. Up until now the only season where ESR was a regular starter for Arsenal was when they were still shite as a team. Smith-Rowe has also just missed a full year of club football, playing just 200 or so minutes in all of last season for Arsenal due to injury problems and loss of form. If you think Mount's last season was bad, it was still infinitely better than ESR's who was barely fit to play all season. For the right kind of deal I'd still be willing to take a punt on him because a reasonably young English lad on modest wages would always have some resale value down the line if things don't work out but somehow I doubt Arsenal would take just £20-25M for him.

Domestic loans don't count in the loan quotas. With Lukaku most likely taking one spot we'll only have one left and it will go to either Ugochukwu or Washington. And there is an argument that a successful PL loan would do Santos much more good than anything he could achieve in Portugal. If the idea remains to eventually have him playing for us, getting him some PL experience beforehand could turn out very useful. And even if he's not going to be a Chelsea player in the long run, just having him play in the PL will definitely raise his value for a potential sale down the line. As long as he gets regular minutes for Forest it will be a good loan deal. And if he's not good enough to play regularly for Forest he wouldn't be good enough for a top Portuguese club either.

The fuck? Isn't the whole point of having a release clause that you don't have to deal with the selling club before talking to the player? 😂

That's short term thinking. If we sell Maatsen for around that price then yeah it's a one-off £20M on the books profit but at the same time we'd still keep Cucurella at £18M/y total costs counting wages and amortisation. For the next five years Cucurella would cost £90M and by selling Maatsen we'd get just £20M of that sum back. On the other hand, say we managed to get rid off Cucurella for a massive loss (maybe £25M fee) then it would obviously amount to a big on the books deficit in the short term but having a much cheaper player in Maatsen would more than save that money back over time. Sign him on a 5 year deal on £80K/wk and his total cost for the next five years would be £20M so around £70M less than Cucurella's total cost. Even if we took a one-off hit on Cucurella's amortisation value the long term benefits would still make it more than profitable. If there's any chance Cucurella could be sold for £20-30M we should sell immediately even if it means a short term loss. His salary could prove problematic for a permanent sale though.