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I don't think, if we go out, that anyone is going to let us forget that we are the first champions to get knocked out of the group stages. So either way it will be a memorable night, but how we will remember it is what will differ.

There's still time Power distribution exam tomorrow and I still have an entire chapter left. Not that I understood anything from the chapters I already studied!

I don't think so. We got 10 points (or should get) in a very tough group and were unlucky with how results went in other matches.

Dynamo Zagreb celebrating scoring a goal and earning a single point as if they won the CL. This is what pride means.

Tbf I've never heard of some of the players in their lineup. I mean Meade? Angha? Hajrovic?! On a different note, congratulations to Man City to be the first English team to participate in the CL and not win a single game.

Not sure about that because he has featured as a sub for them, if the board was punishing him they would not allow him to play like Malouda and Sniejder. His replacement, Aduriz, has also scored 8 goals in 12 matches (maybe we should sign him ) so he could be keeping him out of the side.

Hmm, tricky question. Huntelaar is definitely the better finisher and he can hold up play very well, but I am never a fan of signing 29yo strikers and tbh I am not a big fan of Huntelaar; I think he wasted his potential (I remember about 8 years back when he was supposed to be the next big thing). On the other hand, Llorente is a couple of years younger and can be a very good striker, but from what I've seen his problem is consistency. His form has also dropped a lot this year. The fact that Aduriz has been prefered to him at Belbao just says it all. So yes, I guess Huntelaar would be a better signing, depending on the fee of course.

I'm not familiar with whoscored so I honestly have no idea what stats are suggesting otherwise. But I did not say his work-rate is 10 times that of Lamps who is a box to box midfielder and naturally has better work rate. I said his defensive work rate is batter than Lampard. He always tracks back even when he is on the wing. And he knows when to press.

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http://www.chelseafc...ace-deal-agreed Well this came out of the blue..

Wouldn't call it a collapse, but we just killed the game. He also said Torres is scoring a lot in practice...he also scores a lot in my FIFA manager mode, what does that count for?!

Maybe I just feel we are more fickle because I have to endure through the knee-jerk threads after every single match

Meanwhile, Torres is still acting (and finishing) like a pregnant lady:

No need to shout. Football fans are fickle (Chelsea fans in particular for some reason). We win tomorrow and Juve lose and suddenly everyone will be saying that we will win the CWC and retain the CL. There's no point shouting about it, the gloom is a reflection of our current state and will disappear as fast as it appeared once we win a couple of matches on the trot. Meanwhile... ... our season is fucked and will get relegated and all our players will leave and no one will ever want to manage us again and we will have to hire random people from the street to play and manage us.

I've watched enough of Kevin to see that his defensive work rate is 10 times that of Lampard. He always tracks back, and despite not putting in fancy sliding tackles, he knows where to position himself and how to defend.Just watch him when he plays as a CM for Bremen, he probably wins the ball back more than any of their midfielders. I'm not saying he will walk into the DP, but with proper instructions and some time he can be excellent there imo.

Well you completely missed my whole point. I was talking about emotions and the human psychological system while your post is about sportsmanlike conduct which are conscious actions. Never mind...just pretend I didn't say anything in the first place..

No he's still doing rehab training. From Rafa's conference: RB "It's never a bad time to challenge for a trophy, it's not easy preparing for Japan, but we will do our best" #CFC RB "Every training session the commitment is there, players want to win and they are working hard to perform" #CFC RB "The main thing for us is to win. Torres is an important player for us, but we need goals from other players too" #CFC RB "I am confident we'll do well tomorrow" CFC RB "We cannot be worrying about the other game tomorrow, we have to focus on winning our own game" #CFC RB "The players are working really hard, and training very well" #CFC RB "We have to analyse what happened in the second half on Sat, and provide a solution to ensure it doesn't happen again" #CFC RB "The players know we have to win, and win well tomorrow, we are ready" #CFC RB "There are a lot of positives to take from Saturday's game" #CFC RB "Tomorrow's game is still too early for JT and Frank Lampard" #CFC

No there isn't because it wouldn't be success if you are beating anyone. If you think otherwise give one example of a success without competition. Not mocking them, but taking pleasure from their defeat. I know it does not sound 'nice', and that's because humans aren't 'nice'. It is not something that can be explained in a post on a forum. I recommend Freud's illustration on the human's death instinct in "Civilization and it's Discontents" for a proper explanation. Didn't expect you to accept my ideas, just wanted to give a different perspective to the matter.

What does it matter if they are on the pitch or not? Footballers are people, and just like any people who are against you (be it in sport or not) you enjoy their suffering. Your pleasure from Bayern's pain when Drogba scored is the natural instinctive emotion for humans. The "compassion' you feel afterwards is the fear that you would be in their position some day. I did not mean to offend anyone or question anyone's loyalty to the team; my post was not directed at the barca game or all of football for that matter but general human nature. It was a mix of psychology and philosophy that I really expect very few people to accept but it is my belief.

Press conference in 10 mins. Is it on CTV?

That's very poetic and everything but I'm sorry to inform you that Platonic morals don't exist in the real world. Success is only pleasurable because it comes on the expense of others, that's why you never see someone celebrate a goal he scored while training alone with no keeper. Revenge is one of the things that gives most pleasure to humans, it's part of our sadistic side; so is proving everybody wrong. If you don't feel pleasure from watching those Barca players in pain you are either: not a chelsea fan and therefor don;t consider the success your own, or not human, or most probably pretending and lying to yourself first of all. After the defeat to Juve.

Any more updates? And is there by any chance a video of the orgy?

He should have scored a hat-trick

His representatives denied him making wage requests in order to join Liverpool, but interestingly enough they did not deny his desire to join Liverpool: http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8308047/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

Can't...stop...laughing..!