laura90

Since 2017 and maybe before we are only buying players who can play football to certain level and defend but posses zero courage or skill in them. The ones that had little bit of courage and skill in decisive moments we sold to our rivals. These are the results. Rubbish signings eventually become rubbish mentality. CL was a miracle defence and attack worked as unit but that was one miracle in how many years. Rubbish signings rubbish mentality. Arsenal has won more finals they participated in than we did. Roman was the best owner, up until 2015.

We stand no chance. Especially without Kovacic. Kova is our the most important player against dippers. I understand the importance of Leeds game, but I wish he didn't start. We don't have midfield for this final. We barely have defence, I mean we have not. They will be watching themselves and dippers will take advantage of that. With Lukaku up front who makes simple goal offside with his arms, the only question is how many we will concede. No chance whatsoever.

WE are without defence. Our defenders are on their way out and they are not giving 100 %. They are saving themselves from injuries and their lack of commitment affects everyone involved. Average signings. Only time we got couple of quality signings we lost the best player ever. While he was here we surrendered him with mostly mediocre. IN meanwhile we were getting championship quality players. Half of them on the loan, half of them on the bench. Not good enough midfield humpers attack. Average attack. Season after season. Solid defence for one season and they are gone. I bet that is because they saw ambition with this management. Our transfer policy is hunting us. If we managed top four this season it would be our last one for quite some time. Marina was happy having us in the middle of the table, she wouldn't be getting championship quality otherwise. And selling our prospects to get more toss. Many are afraid we will become top four - middle of the table cup team under new ownership. And what are we now? What have we been since Conte? Don't let Tuchel's cup masterclass full you.

I don't get this. I would understand if he demanded more money from investors to invest in the team because we are left without defence this season and will be left without midfield the next season due to age and form of midfielders as well as contracts expirations. We may as well sell them this season. We are without half of the team and he is asking money for charity. I know some things are more important but.... Hope this additional demand are smokescreen for further investments. Our new expected owners need to invest heavily in this team. That has to be taken into consideration. Is it fair to ask more than 3,5 billions from them? Is it Roman's way to force them to try to get somebody like Bezos onboard? This is taking too long. It's world cup year. We may see all our remaining youngsters and hopless loanees signings getting a chance with the first team next season.

Roman was the most dedicated owner who loved this club and gave it all for club, from his money to unconditional support. That aspect of Roman's ownership we will never be able able to replace. But he had another side of his ownership that we are eager to replace. His inability to chose the right people to run the club. Knowable, professional, independent football experts who would make decisions in accordance with all aspects of the club and decisions from the past. It was always ad hoc at Chelsea, rare are decisions and actions that were products from long term planning. Maybe only academy. But something went wrong even there, having in mind how many of academy graduates wanted out asap. Back to the topic, seeing how easy it was for City and Lfc to find those type of people, I often wondered what stopped Roman from finding these kind of professionals? Was it that he couldn't find experts? There are so many advisors even though a person doesn't have knowledge or connections it can all be arranged with money, he didn't lack or hesitate to invest. What was it then? I reckon he was the kind of owner who always wanted his pals and yes man at the helm of this club. Not independent football experts but people who were close to him and who would listen to him . Of course we had some experts on the board, players we had and titles we have won are proof, but they were not good enough or their influence wasn't big enough. As time have passed this bad side of ownership have prevailed in regards to decision making and results on the pitch. We are on downward trajectory. It is catastrophic that last year we were going to be left without defense and midfield the next to seasons and we go and splash 185 millions on striker without getting any defender or midfielder. It was travesty that only uncapable and ignorant people could do. It will cots this club dearly. Instead of getting two - three players last year and getting two - three players this year we now have to get at least five players to compete. In world cup year. With new owners. It may cost us our top four status. It may cost us our manager. I would like Roman to reduce his asking price and have at least 200 million transfer kitty among his conditions for the new owner. He should have in mind the state of the squad while making decisions during sale process.

As soon as Lukaku was signed with those transfer fee and wages, I said it was start of this club's downfall. I said right away our top four status will be gone and that we are becoming the new Arsenal, hoping for the top four every season only to come short. I was so sad and upset, I wrote countless posts expressing my discontent. Nothing was able to make me relaxed about our prospects, not even the first place we held on till November . It was such criminal not signing midfielder with our injured non stop, it gave our players good indication about our ambition. It was such criminal not signing wingback back up and not offering Livramento bigger wages to stay. It was criminal not getting another defender or keeping Guehi given how good he was for Swansea. Not signing extensions, refusing paying Rudiger and letting defenders situation down the drain was also good indication of our ambition. If majority of fanbase didn't rate Lukaku, how much our players rated him. Making player with that first touch and age the most expensive in regard to fee and wages was also indicator of this club ambition. We needed three players last summer we didn't get one , this summer we will need at least four. Defensive midfielder and Conor for midfield. At least one wingback. Two defenders and Colwill if we continue with three at the back. . What are the chances? Or are we looking at Sarr, Colwill and Chalobah partnership? WE are officially without defense, it's April.

Malang Sarr was brought for free, with intention to loan him out and sell for profit. In the meantime our need to sell in order to gain funds to sign players, and our need to show off how me managed to sell talented young player who never step foot in PL for odd 20 mil and our lack of planning for the next season promoted this loanee into a starter. Emerson is another loanee we tried to promote into starter. And God knows how many more loanees ( youth not included) we would see promoted into starters and on the bench next season when players with expired contracts leave. Arsenal game was horror show of amateurish defense. Rudiger is injured when he comes back will he be more careful for himself? We will have to rely on Silva. It was expected. We knew last season that we were under jeopardy to be left without defense by the end of the season. We are now seeing consequences. I wouldn't blame Tuchel for our bench being filled with championship quality.

Take away our three best players Rudiger, Havertz and 37 years old Silva, bench Jorginho after his abysmal shows and we are a pub team. James is injury prone who probably plays RCB because Tuchel is saving him for the final. Sarr and Chalobah are the reason we were confident even though our defenders refused to sign extensions? If Rudiger starts saving his body a la Christensen we may as well lose that top four place and put in jeopardize our future regarding expected sale. Worrying times ahead. CL was a bless. And pure luck. We would probably need to wait for another one to win another trophy. Or Europa League. Domestic referees had us in their pocket. League is distant dream. Middle of the table future. With these management. Too much money spent to have pub team after removing three players. We have been the worst run team for the past five years and counting. If everyone of us make summer players out list, it would have at least half of the first team and almost all reserves in it.

The last summer is the summer when I totally gave up on this board and the faith of this club with them in the helm. I have been saying this forever. With them we were heading to middle table status. Roman or no Roman, he wasn't willing to pay big to cover transfer mistakes as he used to. Lukaku was not the big signing. It was 1 instead of 3 players signing. Summer of 2020 was financed with sale of our best player and Morata. It seems now Kovacic is injured. That took away any hope I had for Wembley. I don't believe in Jorginho in big occasions anymore and Kante isn't what he used to be. Not getting defensive midfielder with passing abilities last summer was criminal short sided mistake that will likely cost us another Wembley final. Not getting wingback backup is the same kind of mistake that costed us CL exit and both domestic finals. Liverpool rise in the league started with our fall. Our fall would have been significantly less had we had a decent wingback cover and decent midfielder who could pass. Not getting these players but getting striker instead is the kind of mistake that kid would make playing football manager. That kind of mindset was getting us nowhere long term. Our fate would depend on rise of Newcastle or United getting decent manager. Not on our doings. We were only sabotaging ourselves. Selling both Tomori and Guehi without buyback clause while we had half of our defense on possible exit doors is another kid playing football manager decision. Unaccountably. Striker was luxury after we get midfielder and wingback. Possible even CB. Our attacking trio wasn't that awful, they got us CL in their first season. They deserved another chance, player that would make them better not worst. But here striker was cover for all those players. 1,5 mlrd of loans, more than half of that on mismatch players. This sale is not the worst thing. Now we actually have hope that knowable people will do our transfers. We won't get the revenue sky high right away but we can cut the losses.

I don't get what is behind all this? How could he be eligible to own Spanish club but not English? During this sanctions. Anyway if he buys Valencia or some other club I profoundly hope he will take Marina, board and our scouting department with him. How will he be happy to invest again when he has treated Chelsea as a business for the last five to six years. We needed to sell in order to buy and after Hazard and Morata who provided big transfer kitty, we only had duds to sell that no one wanted to buy, so we were left to sell youth in order to generate funds for more duds. In fact, if the same board stayed, I would be terrified if our attempts of selling Lukaku and Werner collapse. Who would we sell ? Kante? Jorginho? With their contrasts running down. If we wouldn't generate enough by those selling players (Italians will wait for the next year) who would we really sell? Conor to Newcastle for 70 mill, Broja to Southampton / Newcastle for 50 mill and Colwill to Newcastle for 40 mill are my guess. That is how we would generate funds to replace outgoing defenders and midfielders. There is fundamental difference between Roman until 2017 and afterwards. Which one will Valencia get?

Regarding to your last paragraph if our board believed/ felt that Lukaku would score around thirty league goals during season as he did at Inter ( I wouldn't expect them to check penalties stats) and enable them CL football without further investing and at the same time didn't know any other player who was available and could provide them the same, yes they would get him and tell the coach to get the best out of him. If they felt that Lukaku will bring more goals and more revenue than any other alternative I firmly believe they didn't ask manager for opinion. Lukaku was fifa and marketing signing from the board. I also believe that Tuchel got along with that signing believing that it wasn't the only one. I believe his priorities were midfielder and wingback, maybe even CB once Guehi and Tomori were sold. Tuchel isn't blameless. He should have known cheaper option and demand that. Which midfielder would come? Are you kidding? Kante plays every third game as well as Kovacic. Since when is Jorginho undisputable and irreplaceable world class? Regardless how you want to put it on Tuchel it was criminal to enter new season without wingback and defensive midfielder even CB having in mind that without contract extensions our CBs could save themselves for the new club by the end of the season. That is the reason we lost last two matches 7 - 2 and we may as well lose the next one. Was Tuchel so stupid to believe we will be fine without dm and wingback? That charade about Emerson and Kenedy in January. That is Tuchel fault too? Tuchel will probably go in the summer. It's the board that stays. And I am among minority that is really excited with prospect of them leaving.

Chelsea board are irrational beings who are hell bent on sabotaging the manager. You put it nicely. It happened after 2012. It happened after 2015 (kind of Mou sabotaged as more). It happened again after 2017 and it happened after 2021. After each of our biggest achievements we were left with weaker teams and worse players. Seasons after we underachieved heavily due to disastrous squad managing and transfer decisions. Why was last year supposed to be any different? Kante was getting older and his injuries were catching up with him. We needed defensive midfielder badly . Defenders were running out of contracts. Extensions weren't agreed. We needed central defender. We really needed wingback because they were crucial for our system and we only had two decent wingbacks and the least reasonable thing to do was to provide backup. We needed one badly as time has shown. Alonso and Azpi aren't good enough backups. We needed one attacker, striker or winger who can score and has good work rate to fit in our pressing game plan. We needed all that and we got Lukaku. You think board was generous when they spent 100 mil on ONE player while we needed THREE/FOUR players? They were cheap and didn't support manager. Why they spent 100 mil on Lukaku? In their anti football minds it was cheaper to spend 100 mil on one of the best goal scorer in the world, as you called him than spend150 - 200 mill on THREE/ FOUR players. They didn't consider him old but in prime . They expected him to score goals needed for CL places and occasional cup. They maybe imagined winning the league only with him. They also expected him to have positive effect on our commercial revenue that was decreasing. That is why they spared no expense. Something tells me we will be better off without them. PS. Tuchel wanted hard working striker. No way Lukaku was his choice.

Lukaku was board signing. The same board that was happy to sell three talented youngsters in Tomori, Guehi, Livramento even though our entire backline was aging and running out of contracts. Yes they wanted to go, but they could have sold them for less money and buyback clause instead of getting big money without buyback clause. We sold promising youngsters to get Lukaku, who was past it talentless player that was never good enough in this league. The same board has so many not good enough players on their books they can't afford to fit young players or change left wingback when they hopelessly need one. The same board has 40 players on their books but when we suffer injury we do not have steady replacement for the most of our first eleven. Or they are abysmal. When Tuchel stayed without left wingback, crucial player for our system, he got freaking Kenedy. And you are claiming he was backed by the board. If Marina for the next transfer kitty sells Connor and Broja ( youngsters are the best sellable assets in this club) you will assume Tuchel wanted it? Obviously if he stayed he would have approved such diversity but that's only because he can't afford fallouts with the board. As soon as sanctions took place Tuchel fixated LUkaku on the bench. That is not coincidence. Pressure from the board was gone. Again we were linked with Lukaku 2017 onwards. Lukaku was our fix it all comercial signing, albeit second alternative to Halland. Lukaku was meant to enable us to win trophies without heavily investing in defence, midfield and attack. That besides commercial revenue was main objective of the worst signing in recent history.

We are not in danger of having owners who will turn us in the business a la Glazers or Kroenke. I shall explain. We had Hazard, player our fanbase beloved. Have we ever managed to sell more shirts of him than LFC sold Salah's or Man Utd sold Ronaldo's, Sanchez's, Cavani's? Not even close I suppose. Glazers sign commercial players they essentially don't need and make profit on shirt sales and merchandise. WE can't. We maybe tried with Sheva, Torres, Falcao, Lukaku but failed. Commercial signings never got us commercial profit. Glazers, Kroenke, FSG have enormous match day revenue. We don't. Arsenal plays kids, pays them like a kids, maintains in the middle of the table and makes profit thanks to commercial and matchday revenue. WE can't. In fact we are so left behind when it comes to commercial and matchday revenue compared to Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool even Arsenal. There is no way we can be profitable midtable. No freaking chance. WE need CL and tv revenue to survive. And those who are interested in us know it. As for being run as a business. Marina was brought for that purposes. She came to maximize profit of every transfer. Whether by selling currently signed players/flops for big money (Costa, David Luiz, Morata, Oscar, Matic, Hazard ) or signing cheaper players. If cheaper option works, great, if don't loan him and sell for profit. (Barkley, Zappa, Bats, Bakayoko, Kepa and more) . Sell before buy. That is not business? We had Hazard and duds around him. We were run as a business. Change happened because of Lampard. He got generous transfer kitty and spend it much wiser than previous years. It resulted in us winning CL. We were selling in order to spend and we were spending on expensive flops. Our transfer strategy lately. I dread of horor transfer window this summer. Our defenders are leaving for free. How would we raise funds to replace them? Who would we sell? To whom? Lukaku? Werner? if not, Broja? Conor? Would we even buy new defenders or would we rely on Sarr and Chalobah? Roman was good, loved us, but never was able to find right people to run this club and was guilty for many inappropriate but 'new toy' signings. WE don't lose much losing this board. AS long as new owners are interested in football club, we will be fine. But some of those investors have stripping assets all over their bids. WE must trust in Roman to differ good from bad.

That's my biggest fear regarding to this forced sale now after my thoughts have sorted out. I really don't want to rain on anybody's parade, even though I've been doing that since the beginning of the season. Some weird sense of sadness related to this club followed me through entire season. Roman is gone, but who is coming? I don't buy, for the second, thought of us getting another Glazers or Kroenke. We can't. We are not Arsenal or Man UTD or LFC. . We don't have large fanbase that has been here trough thick and thin for generations. In England and abroad. Majority of our fanbase is relatively young. And spoiled. They are used to success. If we slip down the table they will switch to lighter blue shirts. As a club, the only, I mean the only way to have us operating without loss is: - getting the right football experts on the board who will buy excellent players for decent prices, preferable younger ones, incoming stars. - using our academy properly - making sure we go far in every competition. - getting a bigger stadium with bigger matchday revenue, but only if we accomplish previous points. If not, effect will be dissatisfactory. Roman failed to do the first point right after 2010. Lots of money wasted with little results in the League papered with two magical CL nights. When would we win the league again? I'm not so sure, even with Tuchel. The man got Lump, as his only reinforcement, and when he really needed to be backed (wingback injury crises), he wasn't. We are losing defenders. At least Rudiger could have been wrapped up long before, but having Lukaku and Werner on big salaries was bigger priority for this board. I'm not sure we were going places at all. We have become cup team for the seventh season in the row. And we would stay that way at best. New owners, investors will analyze our incomings and outcomings. They will see that top four and CL are essential. They are not buying Chelsea fc to make us midtable team. It is called losing money. Losing investment. We can't survive midtable . City can't either. Nufc can. Lfc could. Mutd can. Arsenal can. Chelsea fc can not. If new owners are interested in Chelsea football club we have every chance to be even better off. However, if these investors are interested in land under Stamford Bridge, we are screwed.

Having fans believing 300+ goals Lukaku is an improvement over Werner is nothing strange. We all have different opinions. But we are not paid to make transfer decisions for this club. Imagine having the board of supposedly football people making football decisions for your club fitting those criteria. That's what Lukaku signing from the very beginning signaled to many of us. It was ominous sign that something very bad is taking place up top and that the most accountable people at this club have lost the plot. Entire year we listen how we have to sell in order to raise funds to spend only to spend it on the mismatch. Coincidence how while our board have more important things to think about, Lukaku starts from the bench.

I knew in my right mind this was inevitable but this is heartbreaking. We have lost the best owner in the world football . He was rushed to sell and he sold us to biggest bidder. But this new bidder will have to invest if he wants us to become profitable. And he will have to find people who will make the right decisions unlike Marina. We won't be anyone's cash cow. We simply cant. We don't have big stadium. We don't have big fanbase. To get money we need to remain competitive, playing in the CL. Why would anyone pay billions to own midtable club when he could spend couple hundreds to own midtable club. With bigger stadium. However if RA forgave us debt and sold us for couple hundred millions, that is all another story. Sad day. We lost the owner who truly loved and cared for the club. That is the loss we will never be able to overcome.

That is our only salvation. It would be my biggest wish - different board altogether. This current was setting us back and all our recent success was despite them not because of them. They eventually find a way to sour every major success this team achieve. We would slip from top four with them soon enough. Unfortunately , I can't see the end of this anti Russian hysteria. IMO, It will be over when someone else takes control over oil, gas and mineral resources from these warring countries. It may take months and we may be out from every single competition. Our woes are giant but even bigger woes are waiting ordinary people with sky prices of food, gas, oil and power this war will leave behind. In few years time Ukrainians will remember Maidan with the same grief as Libyans remember African spring. But that is different subject anyway. Abramovich will be instructed to sell from his common sense. He has to. The only alternative is this charade finishing soon enough. We are not attractive to greedy owners who want to buy their golden cow. We are not big enough nor we have resources. If we get new owner he won't have profit in his mind. That's why it will be damn hard to find another.

This new situation with owner is big blow to us. But dismantling our Cl winning trio without giving them the chance to built from there and getting Lukaku instead talented scoring winger as reinforcement is damning act that will hunt us for years to come. Incomings will depend on outgoings? We will sign nobody even if this mare come to an end. We may sell Conor and Broja to have for Lukaku's wages. I don't understand how our owner didn't have some info and why we took so much risk by getting 200 mill player, 100 + 85 mill player in such a difficult and insecure times. Un top of that we made around 200 mil loss last year and spend 200 mill on one single player. Madness. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but in light of these events not getting anyone would be the most sensible and prudent thing to do last season. I know there was the fear of repeating 2013 but you dont rely on player who failed massively playing for the big club in this league to improve other big club. Nevermind, we don't seem able to compete domestically , referees eliminate us with ease and that is consequence of our 2017-2021 transfer activities. I can't see improvement with this management. We are top four club on track to lose our edge. Weather recent events hit us hard, I can't tell but I honestly haven*t been able to see the light regardless. Not with this decision making. Yes, we are CL and world Champions. That makes it even worse.

It is really sad. I often used that word related to this club, but I really sensed something bad and going in the wrong direction. I related it with our disastrous way on handling signings (whether it was buying average players on high wages, buying below average players on high wages, not strengthening the team when needed, overpaying for dross like our last signing. It has started to do really damage after 2017 and it seemed to me, it would culminate this season.) Never have I saw this coming even though I was wary of Russia - Ukraine problems. This is really damaging the club, far more than bad signings. WE may face some extra difficult times. There could be exodus of our players during summer if that charade takes too long. Our best hope is it to come to an end quickly. I don't think club will be seized simply because there will likely be no buyers willing to pay that much. If they had somebody in line, they would have started it already. Maybe they delayed Roman because they wait some Arab to show interest. We won't go under administration or bankruptcy. But we will still face consequences reflected in very difficult business conditions. For now, we can only wait. And hope for this to be over quickly. Gloomy days for us Chelsea fans.

Lukaku will be dropped when he takes us out of Cl places, maybe even this year. When we start losing money we thought we will save with his signing. And we will lose a lot . Marina masterclass. I am not big fan of Tuchel and his brand of football but what I know about him is that he is control freak obsessed with keeping possession, avoiding mistakes and losing the ball at any cost. He is not happy with getting and playing player most likely to lose possession and prone to mistakes with his below amateur touch and movement. He will stop playing him when we start losing money. It is that simple.

Sorry I have just seen your reply. I don't consider Tuchel innocent, obviously I can't but I firmly believe had it been only him making the shots who would be signed Lukaku wouldn't even been here. Had he been told he has 100 mil to spend he would have spent it on wingback and midfielder or CB probably. This club spent entire summer generating funds for Lukaku. Waited to sell Cats abuser and Tammy to sign Lukaku. Decision about Lukaku was made early and it was known for everybody, including Tuchel. Once signing was imminent Tuchel could have tried to come to an agreement with him on how to use him in the team. It was his job to get along with board decision. He is paid for that. Could he persuade them to spend 180 mill on one player, who will stay there long after he is gone? Not in a mil. years. Record transfer, record wages. It's is board decision. Klopp would maybe give Salah 500 000 a week but that salary is board decision. AS I said before, Marina believed that one Lukaku is enough to cover wingback, midfielder, CB and attacking player. WE can have mediocre players there if we have Lukaku. Just like Hazard in those days enabled us to have mediocre players in various positions. No need to invest further. Had he been exclusively Tuchel signing Tuchel would have let Lukaku to take penalties when goals dried up ( Just like Conte did, 17 / 18 goals in Italian league isn't that impressive) and wouldn't bench him ever, leading to interview and manic eating of fast food we are seeing.

Called him Kepa II the days before he even signed but he is far worse signing than Kepa. I disrespected Kepa. He at least was moveable from the starting line up if not from the wage bill and the club. This one can't be moved even from the line up let alone wage bill and the club. I really hope bridge crowd will show their discontent, even though it's bad for the club it may be good for the team. He will probably cost us the Club world cup, if he starts. We would have lost Uefa Super Cup with him up front. We would have never won CL with him upfront. And we will win nothing with him upfront. My two cents. When will we move him? When we loan him out paying big share of his wages. But that doesn't even matter. What matter is, will those who paid record fee for him on top with record wages leave too. And be replaced with more knowable football experts. If not , we are entering new, midtable era. It was never about Romelu Lukaku. There were writings on the wall that everyone bar handful of Lukaku fans could easily see. It was always about ignorance and incompetence of those who failed to see these signs and have signed him. Tuchel wasn't here 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 and we still were linked. Wishfull thinking it was Tuchel.

I believe this board was more determined to sign Lukaku than it was to sign Shevchenko. I firmly believe this. Torres was maybe manager wish, but Lukaku was wish from above. I will repeat it. Board was so damn sure prolific goalscorer is all we need. Sign that and we don't have to sign anyone else and we will be able to compete in all fronts. They have seen that our team was very good bar this little detail. They went for Haland. Best option. Didn't work out. They went for, in their short sighded minds, the second best option. It worked out. They sold couple of promising youngers and sealed the deal. Sorry, Tuchel wasn't asked. Because Tuchel would have asked for wingback, cb, striker, maybe even winger. It was easier this way. Hand him common solution. No question asked,. You are paid to make the best of what you have. Lukaku is too good to fail under manager of quality. You don't get along with our solution? The doors are there. Manager doesn't want to stay without his paycheck and phones Lukaku. If Tuchel knew he wouldn't be able to sign anyone else even if he needed due to injuries, would he splash all the cash on Lukaku?

Chilwell injury, had we not signed Lukaku, would be the reason we wouldn't finish second behind City with less than 19 points gap Lukaku introduction and coming back from the injury and starting every game is the reason we will finish out of the top four. You dismantle entire team when you put monkey in front of them who just stays there and waves with his hands pointing around and screaming. IT's easily visible on entire team and I called it from the august. They seem frustrated and fed up. Those players won us Cl in their early twenties. They are not this hopeless. Genuine question. If our board didn't want Lukaku why the hell they spunked 200 mil on him. Why they didn't say too expensive, use Abraham. Like they did to Hakimi and Kounde. And almost every quality player linked with us from previous years. One is certain, whoever puled that signing, did severe damage to this football club. Even if people believe they have seen the worse, they are in for the surprise.