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Lol. He scored 29 goals for them last season but has been used sparingly this term because of they know he'll be off soon. This is why they got Adruiz, and he's been good for them also tbf.

We can all say Drogba "resolves games on his own" but most of those goals come from good work from others. Let's just look at last season: Goal against Spurs = fantastic pass by Lamps. Goal against Bayern = good delivery by Mata. Goal against Napoli = great cross by Ramires. Goals against Valencia = good work by Mata. Goal against Newcastle = Great ball by Mata. (off topic, Mata is really awesome) Anyway Falcao is also like this, they're one or two moments where he can just hit a beauty (happens will every good striker also, Torres even scored a great goal against Newcastle), but the majority of time it depends on the delivery. I don't think he does anything more than any good striker, except you can say he's a better finisher than most.

Why would we trade Cech? one of the best at his position?!

I very much disagree with this point after watching him play for Porto, Colombia and Atletico. Most of his goals have come from great movement and getting on the end of a great cross from someone like Hulk, or a great pass in behind the defence. He scores once in a while from outside the box like against us or Bilbao in the EL, but it's not frequent enough to be described as "creating his own chances". In fact i do not get the whole creating chances thing, he's a striker - there is nothing wrong with him being dependent on service, vast majority of strikers are like that. Yesterday against Celta Vigo he did nothing because they rarely got the ball to him.

Not bad considering he will win nothing at Liverpool

He will be sold for around 15m by next season. He will probably excel at his next club too.

I don't think i like the idea of Mourinho returning, i can't see him having the same amount of success he did during his first stint. Not to mention the team has changed a lot, will he be able to spend enough to get the players he wants?

Yeah i was just thinking that, but they've just scored. Doesn't change the fact the team have been really under-performing though, it's up to the people at Madrid whether they want Mourinho to lead this group in the quest for 'La Decima' or a new manager who might perhaps lift the morale.

I will not be surprised if he's fired from Madrid soon, 16 points behind Barca, disharmony in the squad...

Isco just scored for Malaga.

I just remembered, so true. On two different occasions they've both argued on the pitch, and it's obvious the manager would take the side of Messi.

Villa is/was a great striker, i'm just not sure about him now with this injury. I don't get why he can't play at Barca also, Pedro and Sanchez are not exactly playing great.

Wrong, it's like some people think Rafa is in love with Torres. He subbed him while he was at Liverpool - one time when they weren't even winning, and there's a popular gif of Gerrard's reaction to that. If he's not playing well and there's another option, Rafa for one will take him off, or make it 2 up top if we need a goal.

You don't know though because he hasn't played a lot of football. He wouldn't be the first player to get worse after injury.

I can't say he's still quality since he rarely plays enough to judge.

I would say Sturridge has better movement than Torres but he's not much better finishing.

But we're not going to sign a player because of his instincts, he needs goals to show this. And as for Torres, people always tell me you need good movement to score tap ins, so i'll say the same for him lol.

Jelavic has 1 in 6 games and only 6 goals this season. Torres has more while playing badly almost every game. Thank god you said "stats aside"

They might make a deal with clubs like Arsenal or Swansea, but Chelsea? i'm not so sure. He's not even worth pursuing anymore. He should have come to Chelsea 3-4 years ago.

Tbf he was good at Barca till the disagreement with Pep - after being shifted to the wings so Messi can play in the middle.

Yeah i know you said on loan, but my points still stand. We will have to pay his wages for the amount of time he's here, and he's still old

He's one of Barcelona's highest paid players, he won't come here especially to take a wage cut. Plus he's too old anyway.

Yeah 26 according to wiki, 22 in the league. He's not in that class imo. He is a very good striker, just like Cavani, just like Ibra and Van Persie. But those other 3 players are special.

He got 26 goals last season while being in and out of the team, also added 10 assists.

How isn't Higuain good enough? his stats are very good, especially for a player who hasn't been a regular starter the past 2 seasons and was also out for 4 months the season before that. I'm defending him because he was one of the names i had in mind along with Soldado who has been very good in the scoring department for the past 2 seasons and is well on his way to the same kind of numbers this season also. And i don't think we need "one of the best" strikers. We need someone that is more efficient than Torres, simple as that. For all Torres' faults he still has 13 goals this season, that is not bad for any other striker in football - but we all see him every week and know how many chances he screws up and how badly he plays.