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we won the CL with those tactics. your FSW cant win a bloody match with any supposed football knowledge he has. so stop trolling...

seems legit... infact he should try for a job in the circus as a fat clown... has a 1000 times better chance of succeeding than at being a football manager...

just watch the video of jeff shreeves telling iva that he wont be able to play the cl final and you ll know "how much he cares"... he is out of form plus he has been playing continously... give him soome time on the bench and i am sure he ll be the old bane...

he should be benched. its not what u wanted to say that is the problem but how u said it. "cunt" to ivanovic??? u can look at the swansea match to see how distraught the guy was at the end of the match. u can see his care for the club. but yes, his performances have been poor for sometime and not just this season. even at the end of last season. red cards , performance against pool etc. but to call him a cunt is disgraceful..

we had an amazing start to the season when we had 22 points in 8 games. take it out we got 24 points in 17 games (can u believe that!!!!)... if this continues there is no way we would be able to finish 4th.NO WAY IN FUCKING HELL.

its the type of fixtures we have... our last 6 games are tot,liv,swansea,manu,villa,everton. these games (against newcastle,reading,south) are must wins games for us. we cant win a game right now forget about going on a winning streak. the only reason we are even 3rd is because we had an amazing start to the season when we had 22 points in 8 games. take it out we got 24 points in 17 games (can u believe that!!!!)... if this continues there is no way we would be able to finish 4th.

do us all a favour and fuck off.

his mistake of sliding in the build up for newcastle's 2nd goal cost us the match in my opinion. it was unneeded and cost us 3 points. hope for a better performance and i know we will get better performances... come on JT...

are u fucking kidding me? rdm made a tactical decision to stop lahm... we were gonna park the bus, had no other option. today bertrand started , fine, no problem with it. but y keep him wen we conceded in the 68th minute... sub him and get a winger on against tired wingbacks. thats what i said. try reading and understanding comment. also read bushman's comment about what subs it had and then try to add 1+1 on why i would write that comment.

newcastle scored their 2nd goal on 68th minute. just tells u how defensive and negative the manager is when he keeps bertrand on and does not put a natural winger/midfielder in marin/benayoun on... he fuckibg dint even go for the win.. our bench might not have messi and ronaldo but i dont see the problem in using who ever we do? or do u actually believe bertrand is a better winger than marin/benayoun... FSW lacks balls, all he thinks about is his record and not what is right for the club and he has no footballing brain...

i just wish some1 had noted these guys' name down... deluded bunch of sad souls..

dude seriously???? i mean even if the manager who replaces him does not anythin then we would fare just like we are. now think what happens if he makes the right decisions... u cant keep FSW just because u think his replacement might not be as good.and believe me not many as bad as him in the world. my girlfriend can mange chelsea better and she has no clue about football.

there is still time... please sack him otherwise no CL next season... please ROMAN... stop being such a stubborn asss.... for chelsea's sake... eat your pride and sack the fool...

thank you for the mention. feels good.

should have been @muzchap last month but it should be him atleast this month without a doubt, @only place to be is a very close second and only because he is too stubborn in my opinion. pleease dont take it the wrong way. its just that he likes/dislikes one particular thing (like lamps) and then takes every oppurtunity to rub it in. but his posts are really quality and informative and shows the knowledge of some1 who has been a die-hard fan all his life.

answering to your first para would be repetitive as u say. but i do feel any1 can do a better job and if employing a new manager for 4 months gets us CL spot then do it because i cant see any big name manager (and by that i mean "the special one'") coming back if we dont get CL football. as for your 2nd para, this is more like it. players would tend to take those "easy" games lightly and whose responsibility do u think it is to make sure that does not happen. i mean look at cleverly, rafael, welbexk... thats man management of youth or young players because earning high wages and all would give a certain extent of responsibilty which our players are able to fulfil but turning up for each and every match has to be the manager's responsibilty at that age.

this is where we differ.

the point was they won even if they got sacked plus all of them will have a better record than fsw does at this moment while managing a much egotistical group of players (remember DD, ballack, anelka, JT lamps). yet this guy has proven the worst of the lot and with some light years to spare. your argument of a natural leader makes perfect sense in big matches but we are not struggling in those mathces (atleast in pl). we won away to everton, stoke and at home against arsenal but could not manage a win against qpr,soton, reading,swansea and brentford. it does not go down on captaincy and leadersgip because that is needed most in big and important matches. as for your young player argument, i think its lame and even senseless. u dont need a "world class performance"as u put it , in every match u play. no one is expecting them to play every match like the way we played against barca. your argument of "pressure" would hold true if we were performing poorly against big teams. but we seem to win most of our important games or games against "good" teams like everton, arsenal, tottenham, even united, stoke, but suprisingly fail to do so against qpr,swansea,soton and reading? how is there more "pressure" on these players to perform in those matches rather than the more difficult ones.

"I'm bored of arguing with you" the feeling is mutual. "We both have nothing new to say to eachother, quite repetitive" totally agree. "Regarding Moses, we are missing him dearly atm but saying things like he has been regular in EPL for 2 seasons, so what? He hasn't been in a big club like Chelsea fighting to win every game, every competition - he lacks that winner's mentality and know-how how to perform week in week out, grind results." this is the comment tat would probably kill moses' soul if he ever read it. the guy has been quite consistent. has performed really well wenever he has got a chance. the only really poor performance would be cwc final. the last line seems to have hurt u so sorry for that. but i still hold on to some beliefs no matter what. all u need to do is read some of the posts from posters like rafafan etc or a lot of them in torres' thread to know what they put first, chelsea or the blondie and FSW.

"i think its the players fault" saying that over and over again, is that not repetitive when in my last to last post i have already said y it cant be the players' mistake because this is not the firt 2-0 lead we have given away this season. neither is it the first time that a team has got 2 shots on goals and 2 goals for it. even the qpr match was 1 shot i goal. it is way more deep than "the player not marking their men perfectly"... so its not my fault tht i keeping saying the same thing again and again when he keeps giving the same argument again and again. azpi is a gem of a player, so is oscar, so is moses and so is hazard, expecting them to perform and a consistent leve is deluded???? how can u say that? what team are they playing for? the fucking european champions? what do u think they were bought for? to play 5 good games this season. this "young players so cant do much" argument is lame. do i need to tell u that by no means do u have a young squad. cahill,luiz,rambo,mikel in 25s. lamps, JT, cole, cech in 30s. iva-28/29. torres and ba both over 27. we have squad with a proper range of age. this group of people maybe "unmanagable" even though i dont really understand what u mean by that because jose won us 2 pl, carlo got a double, rdm won fa and ucl, gus won fa andi can bet anythin that any manager dint have as bad a record as FSW. the point is we dont look like winning any thing at the moment and we dont look like finishing 4th at the moment if any team behind us hits form.

first things first, did u read my last post? there was a whole para dedicated to it not being all banitez's fault, so i dont get your So do you really believe our problems started solely because Benitez took over? how many times has it happened specially for chelsea that a manager is axed, a new one replaces him and perform better. were they given drugs or something back then? i dont get your "fresh player" argument and neither do i get your injured player argument. JT and lamps barely played under rdm. plus afcon only started 3 weeks ago but these poor results under FSW were going on way before that. we finished 6th last year and yet u say it would be difficult for our young players to fill in the shoes of kalous, bosingwas and maloudas. so according to u, our players are surpassing your expectations by a mile by being 3rd in the table. we might be a club in transition but our aims and expectations are still pretty high. getting knocked out of group stages was unacceptable and cost a manager his job and so should not getting 4th place. plus we have not got "children"... hazard was more than proven and he has done himself no harm with the performances he has put. azpi has played cl before and also is quite proven. moses has played PL week in and out for 2 seasons now. so dont give arsenal like excuses... if we were so worried about spending money on managers i would have thought we would not have paid 13m to porto for avb and then 13m in compensation. our defense dint look solid, we just stopped attacking for the city and fulham game because after that i dint see much difference (remember the whu game). i dont even remember if we actually had a decent chance in both those games combined... so let me get your last lines straight... its the players fault that we are performing badly, its also the fans' fault to boo the manager which is making us play badly at home but the only person blameless in all of this the great fat cunt...

our players are playing week in and week out. they have dropped 5 trophies this season already. the mood in dressing room seems abysmall. do u think they can self motivate easily. no way. thats a manager's job and one of his cheif ones. and benitez has done a wonderful job of not doing anything regarding this. i would have agreed with you about it being only the defenders mistake if this was the first time we had it happen to us. but is it? the same exact thing happened against southampton and swansea ( 2 shots and 2 goals). if u cant see a pattern here, then i cant help you. this goes way too deep than just defensive mistakes and poor concentrations. its been happening to arsenal for what 5-6 years now, and the person who is most accountable is the coach for trying to get another goal instead of seeing of the match. and benitez's comments about getting a 3rd totally supports this. so reagarding the demba ba sub, tell me was the right one? 88 mins 2-1, the only thing in the manager's mind should be to shut off the match and this is no rock-paper-scissors. its basic common sense which FSW seems to be lacking. did reading need an invitation to attack attack attack... they were 2-1 and had just got a goal, what do u think they were supposed to do, be satisfied by getting a consolation and sit back and let the clock run. any team would have been on the attack, and any team leading 2-1 should have been on the defense. and with a sub like JT, i would not have thought about it even once. dont forget that this is the same FSW who in liverpool used to take off a winger or a forward to replace with a defensive player as soon as pool went 2-0 or 3-0 up. remember his defensive strats? he dint play rock-paper-scissors then and neither did he need to play it yesterday, but all he needed to do was use that thing on the top of every human, a brain. this is a discussion about FSW. i dont know how your argument of having problems BACK then makes sense. for me the problem is simple, we dont have a playing style. under rdm we atleast tried playing one touch passing upfront thru mazacar and it was all thru the center until a sub like moses came in to provide width. but now down the left we play bert and cole who combined might have put a couple of crosses in the whole season. down the right he have oscar who is looking to cut in or just simply be central at every given oppurtunity. thru the center we just hope mata creates magic. the young players are pretty much ready to take up the responsibility in my opinion, because to be honest they dont have very big shoes to fill. azpi for bosingwa (i think doing a way better job), hazard for kallou (are u kidding me), marin for malouda (what can u say when a manager continues to play a left back on the left wing when we have a winger), oscar and moses have done a pretty decent job compared to any of our forwards last season in pl (DD included). the only shoes to fill are DD's which the ladyboy cant even fathom to do in our wildest dreams so y persist with him when we probably have the best striker or one of the best strikers in PL at this moment. also no one is saying that FSW is the only reason for our current predicament. a lot of blame goes on the board to sack rdm and make him the manager. players have to take their share of blames of playing the same game over and over again and not learning from their mistakes. the game i am refering to is the one in which we dominate all match long but dont take our chances and then end up dropping points (wba,swansea (carling cup and pl),liverpool,wba,reading,southampton,qpr) all these games have the same exact story. but all this aside FSW has to take the majority of the blame for the mess. as for "Sacking a manager can let you and many others sleep tighter at night but I'm not so sure it will do the club any good". how will it not do the club any good? by getting a top 4 finish because in my opinion we cant with FSW. our last 6 fixtures are TOT(H),LIV(A),SWAN(H),MANU(A),VILLA(A) and EVERTON(H). 3 of the 6 teams will be fighting for the 3-4th spot, one of them will be fighting for the title and the other 2 are our Bogey teams. i can see us screwing up badly and ending out of top 4. and for me that is way higher on priority list than wondering if the players will be able to cope with a 3rd style of playing or "sending a message to potential next managers that even in darker times he will be having a chance to redeem himself". (by the way what "style of playing" has FSW been endorsing here?)

jokes aside... did he actually say that???

i know stoke dont have the best record at emirates plus suprisingly they are leaking goals, but SURE is going a bit too far for me.

NO. inconsistency and choking at the first signs of pressure are hardly what u want in your team but unfortunately we have got both. if spurs and arsenal/everton hit any kind of form, its hard for me see us finishing fourth because i cant see our results getting any better under FSW. i think this would go to the last weeks and probably the last day and our last 6 fixtures are TOT (H), LIV (A), SWANSEA (H), MANU(A),VILLA(A)(8-0 aside they have been our bogey team for sometime now) and last nail in the coffin EVERTON (H). i can very well see us fucking up nice and easy.