Kojo

You do realize we still have 3 quarters of the season left to go? No need to get corny or ahead of ourselves.

We are two points behind Arsenal. We have already played United, City, Spurs and Everton. I think that we are definite title contenders this season no doubt about it, because I still think our best is yet to come, we have had a slow start, I expect the likes of Mata and De Bruyne to come into play later on in the season and start winning us some points. And Eden Hazard loves his football when it comes January time. November has been a terrible month for us for the past 3 seasons, we didn't win one game that month last season. If we can get through that month, things are going to look smashing. But everyone, go look at the Arsenal forum right now, look at how stuck up they are, and how they are deciding who are going to be 'their' title contenders. It's amazing how full of themselves they can get after a few nice wins, I promise you all it's going to be comedy when these fools drop come February, it will be fucking comedy.

Ramires has been like Gerrard this game, the most surprising part about the game never mind Torres.

This is what I've been saying to those stupid Madrid fans, they all blamed Jose, they all called for his head in that friendly and said it was revenge. They where mad at him for how he treat Casillas, even though it was Casillas being the wanker, and now look, is Casillas still playing?, no.

El Classico is not the same as it was 2-3 years ago. Now it's always boring, Barcelona just aren't the team they used to be are they, they never let Real Madrid have so much possession. I don't think it's the Guardiola leaving what's the problem I just don't think they have been able to replace there older players with fresh new ones to come on and play, it seems to be the same ole stuff.

How is that? 9/10 games this season I've said we are going to win, I'm one of the few who knows we can win the Premier League not getting sucked into this stupid Arsenal and Liverpool hype.

Only game of the season so far I'm not confident with, I'm not expecting a victory.

Pointless getting angry about it, because they will keep winning games till about December. Wouldn't surprise me if they are number one by December anyway still, however they will not win the league, not a chance. They will finish 4th in the league mark my words, they will drop. Arsenal haven't proven how consistent they can be, they are having flashy performances, next month they wills scrape results whilst playing badly because it will be hard for them but they will manage to get the points out of the hard games. But when the F.A Cup and Champions League comes to effect, it's going to be very hard for them and I mean very hard. They don't have the firepower us or City have.

Oh shit I forgot I need my alibi, and to make myself look like i wasn't arguing. Uhm yes, I think Azpi should be getting more game time, that is all.

Aiming? Winding people up is winding people up, are you really going to be that childish and say that because he was 'aiming' that at me he's the nasty one? Doesn't matter if you make it obvious or you make it as subtle as a ninja, winding up is still the same degree no matter what. I've already stated two points that you do to wind people up. And you really want me to go digging up posts in Mikel thread? Why don't i just shot all 50000 of your posts from that thread on here? You're not starting to do it in the Schurrle thread, where you can't accept he's had a bad game and then start making bizarre remarks about how he had a brilliant game. AGAIN IT'S WINDING PEOPLE UP, I would post all these examples, but in my culture, my Middlesbrough culture, it doesn't consist of wasting my own time searching for posts what I don't care that much about, that offends me and my smoggy culture.

When Mikel had one good game in about 15 against United, you stated that he had 'proven' everyone wrong, that is winding people up and you know it. I know you're not a stupid person so you know yourself by that one game wouldn't prove anything, especially 30 minutes. Even your signature, now look I know it's not my place to say that it's wrong, but it is going to give off the wrong idea, like it or not you enemies about your Mikel discussions. Look at that guy who got banned because he got so mad at you in the Mikel thread, what was his name BleedsBlue or something? Now as any member in your position or even an ADMIN you would think of just removing that if you didn't want the bad attention or the unfortunate winding up from some people which you have just stated you don't like. Just some tiny advice I've added, take it or leave it, but you do wind people up, I have no proof if at times you mean it or don't mean it but I have a good idea, but I doubt you would really care for my opinion.

What is even your case? That is whats amusing me right now, this cultural differences which appeared all of a sudden which you failed to even mention before Spike Spiegal had to bring it up and now you've suddenly clinched onto it is not even making any sense. Mainly because you yourself are winding people up, people like Phill which you have just proven that you don't class as a friend since you 'rarely' speak to him as you just so previously mentioned in your last post. This is all so Luis Suarezish don't you think? Cultural differences, but of course this time I would respect that if it hand not of been for the fact you are winding others up yourself. SO AS I CLEARLY STATED, don't give it if you can't take it.

Are you friends with PhilDriver by any chance? If not then stop winding him and all the others up like you have done with your petty little jabs and sneaky one liners, if that's not the case then 'lol' keep going you're so hilarious, banter init.

We know, I'm just giving Choulo the argument he so desperately wants.

You just meant? So you want to go back to the basics then? Go ahead go and tell me that there is no definition for anything, that I can say a player is good when really that's unfair because someone can say he's in the average category it's unfair to define him as good. It's getting ridiculous now, you can't even have a good debate with you, you always take the big steps away from the actual argument. But yeah you 'just' meant you weren't stating anything, you never do that do you, you never make bold statements just to wind people up and then state the obvious when people quote you. But this is a forum and we all talk in typical banter/catshit sense, if you say someones world class then you mean he is world class, that means world beater, it does actually have a meaning. I fail to see how this player is a world beater when he hasn't shown that, he doesn't play in a top class team and consistently puts in top class performances, if he doesn't do that then it is wrong to define that player as world class, no matter how 20 dimensional you want to get on me. What does Juve have to do with anything? Oh I don't know they let this so called world class player go, what sort of team does that?

Banter is banter, just like how he has Obi Mikel he scores when he wants in his signature, when he himself has complained in the John Obi Mikel thread about over aggressiveness and too much heat. It's just being a wind up merchant, winding people up and rubbing it in there faces over the slightest little things. If you're going to give it you gotta be able to take it, no that's what she said or dirty jokes intended.

Just because you're an Admin doesn't give you the right to plant false evidence on posts, no one is insulting, it's called winding up, if you don't like the game then stop playing it in the first place.

World class? Why because he played for your favorite team Juventus? You know your team what let him go? He's not world class, world class is someone like Juan Mata, Iniesta, Schweinsteiger, Toure or even Van Persie not a player who is playing in a team that has only achieved one point in 8 games. He hasn't done much yet for Sunderland, he is far from world class, stop being a wind up merchant. Yeah I watched the Euros, I also remember how many of us wanted Debuchy because of his excellent performances in the tournament, now he's the liability of Newcastles defence.

Honest to god he is the ultimate wind up merchant, unless you really are just bananas, ha, I'll go with both.

World class? You really need to raise your standards.

I think the main highlight of my post is, and I stated this to you last time, DO NOT GET CARRIED AWAY It's pretty simple, one game doesn't mean anything, especially with the form Mata has been in, Hazard has always known to have fairly average starts and then comes to life in January. He did that last season, Oscar can feed Hazard through and give him enough of the ball, even if Mata can do it more it doesn't matter. Simply because when Oscar plays the system fits and we play much better and more efficient, overall it is the better choice. All these tools saying Arsenal are title contenders, really do need to go sort it out, it must be human psychology, because how can we be so stupid to write people and teams off every single season when it's about 8 games in. Out of the title contenders we have had the best start, we just need to put that to the test and be like that for the rest of the season and we can win the league.

Hazard in the first half was poor, besides his goal he didn't contribute much besides a nice pass to Eto'o, he was barely visible. Mata was poor, Oscar shown once again why he is the more suitable CAM when he came off the bench. It doesn't matter about your online popularity, it can come from anyones mouth it's still wrong. They don't need each other Hazard can perform with or without Mata and the same goes for Mata.

@The Skipper As I said, the Mata and Hazard combination is a myth, the team can get along fine.

I missed it, anyone got a stream? mines went down.

I think it's time to take Ivanovic off.