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Either that or he'd been sacked and have Grant as manager... Third best of whatever doesnt matter on the day.You play like crap you get punished.Man U went out their 'easy' group,not all top teams etc but just the way things happen. League cup,you want to win every trophy and the play your best worked with Jose..we played our best and still nearly went out so god knows what our second lot would've done Drawing to Liverpool no biggie...we've lost to them most of the times before,Swansea arent an easy team and West Brom we lost last season.Anyone can beat anyone on the day really.The loss to Man U is when things turned to crap really and ref decisons didnt help that one.And Man U have been utter shite this season...they just have had the strike force that we so need! Champs league god knows what went on there.Not taking chances and playing pretty shite really.Lucky for a late goal from Moses we still have a shot even if its a small one Guess just worried if these issues arise we Pep,random draws etc what then?Spent so long after the bloke cant just sack at the first sign of badness

Exactly and thats the point Ray Wilkins raised really..all that time trying get someone cant sack him really... The Jose programme recorded it aint yet watched cause prob gana depress.There was one on Saturday at the same time as the West Ham game which was sucky timing considering..heres what you had..and heres whats happening now hurrah!

I dont think we'll have a problem attracting players,end of the day they always need clubs to go to..just worried about managers really. Not gana stop supporting the club thats just a bit daft and to far and whats the point?Stick by good,bad and shite times cause its not always gana be rosey and plain sailing as proven this period

At least he's noticing theres problems.. Yeah exactly could be worse..could be better but maybe best be grateful with what have for now..espically conisdering the other choices.. He must realise Grant is not an option.I dont think he'd gotten us as far as he did if he didnt have Clarke at his side.Mean we were 3-1 up against Spurs..takes a key player off...someone else says 'what are you doing' and we draw and throw points away.And he aint exactly been successful elsewhere so nahhh....surley gotta see sense on that..I bloody hope so anyway!

Without Steve Clarke we'd be heading for disaster!Thank god we've said nope about that rumour

Fingers crossed......

Least for once Man U fans cant moan about a fix seeing as we have a League side and its away Local got Wolves...intresting

Walk around end of the season gana be a bit awkward.....

pretty much sums it up....and that isnt gana change anytime soon with us unless time can be guranteed which is never gana happen which leads back to the problems

Not worried about the other results worried about us!Can see us throwing this completly away and will all go to complete shite.saying that dont expect us to get any futhur but be nice to have a chance

They bloody better not be!Sell him who does score and run and move around when given a chance.Granted may be selfish at times but that can be worked out...however selling and keeping Torres..no chance...I hope

Going for Rmpr

Urgh did think be something to do with what.Its crazy he's served his ban and its done!Doesnt make him a crap leader on the pitch...just a bit of a idoit who said a completly crap thing over a year ago God when he retires no doubt it'll be brought back up

I was listening to some of that then JT banner randomly got brought up for what seemed like no reason

Gutted not be going..think its easier to take a defeat if your there in a massive crowd rather then watching on telly thinking what the hell just happened and needing to rant away. And if we get through mega happy times there and all

Probably not to long..their seem a bit hmmmm about it...good manager and playing well just not getting anything.Been better off staying with Swansea

I cant imagin someone giving up a job where they're under little pressure to come to us.....not way we are at the moment anyway

Exactly and there lies the issue.Cant expect to develop youngsters in 6 months or so.At some point the board need to be patient and hopfully be like it with Pep or whoever we end up with should we miss out on him.Like said Jose wanted to try and bring in more youth when everyone was raving about Arsenal but summed it up when said pressures onto win trophies so felt unable to take time to build a team like that

Avram Grant can very quickly say goodbye...

Our issue does seem to be not giving them time or playing them,sending them away on loan where they either stay or sold elsewhere.Need to start taking risks and give the Manager time to take those risks or trying to develop them is a waste for us and a gain for someone else

They dont often get time to show potential.And the thing is I wouldnt blame Pep if he thinks 'sod it whats the point' and goes elsewhere.We're not making the best name for ourselves or looking like the best place to go to and be able to build a team and play how the Manager wants not how they're told to play.And if we do get him I hope after all this he doesnt stupidly get the sack because who next?

Exactly Im not fussed so much if we go out as long as its due to the other result and not a fuck up from us.I want a performance to be proud of that you think 'hmm maybe things are turning' not a 'well they clearly didnt give a crap' on Think Shakhtar have a player missing due to what happened in the other game..not sure who though.And Nords werent exactly a push over in that one they gave them a good go so dont expect a run around espically way we're playing.They'll no doubt score first and after about 10 chances from us and spend about 2 minutes running around clueless which Rafa waves his hands about to get across god knows what

And he's never gana know who the right manager is as soon as we hit a bad run thats it they're out.No time to see how they can get out of it or how things will go instead.And he defintly wont find it with Rafa!Or anything with Rafa at this point.RDM may have caused us to be in the postion we are in Champs League wise but anything between now and end of the season isnt down to him at all

Our idea of stable is getting past the 6 months mark at the moment...

And thats how we should be.Play football from which was get results.Dont wana be an Arsenal play 'decent' football but loose all the time because of it.Cant always play pretty pretty or whatever and even more so if you havent got the players to do so