Peace.

It's been 8 months he is poor. Wrong ! He is average at best. And I'll repeat myself, we ain't calling for his head "after a relatively short time". It's been months that many of us want him out !

What did he miss ? And is he playing good aside this ?

... I didn't even mentiond stage group or the UCL in general, I just asked about this :

Yeah, plus he doesn't fear to show his ass on the telly. First off, BadBoy has answered for me. Secondly, I didn't asked about the Valencia game, but about the Genk game. And has Badboy said, I'd rather us to change our formation than playing him on the wing.

You are wrong mate. We didn't start to think he is garbage after those two games. We think so for a long time. To sum up, because he has been garbage for five years.

Do you think it will be crucial for us and Kalou that Kalou play against Genk ?

Do you really think Bertrand - 22 years-old and our second LB choice - will be really motivated after this ? I wouldn't.

Yeah, I understood that. But, he could have been included instead of someone like Ferreira...

Why "can't" ?

Andre Villas-Boas has left £20million striker Romelu Lukaku out of Chelsea's Champions League squad. Lukaku, 18, has been sacrificed by Villas-Boas because Chelsea did not have enough 'homegrown' players to maximise their 25-man squad. Michael Essien has also been omitted because of his long-term knee injury and so has Ryan Bertrand, an English victim of spending so long on loan at different clubs. Chelsea have only been able to name 22 players on their 'A List' for the Champions League because they only have John Terry who qualifies as one of four allotted 'club trained' places. It is a problem every year. Last year, Paulo Ferreira missed out but since the sale of Yury Zhirkov and failure to sign Alvaro Pereira from Porto Ferriera will be needed as potential cover at left-back. Frank Lampard, Daniel Sturridge, Ross Turnbull and Ashley Cole make up the four 'association trained' places. Teenagers Josh McEachran and Nathaniel Chalobah can both play because they qualify on the 'B List'. Bertrand's omission makes a mockery of the homegrown rule. He is English born but fails to meet the criteria because he was not registered at Chelsea for three years between the ages of 15 and 21. Read more: http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz1Wofbyxpq

He "lol" of the fact some think we have bough him (Ganso).

He is U21, so he doesn't count. No, they are U21.

Lionsden and Styles.

I hope he won't follow the same path/fate as the other Liverpool players who have come here.

I don't say we have bought him or whatsoever. Hence I used italic when saying "if we have bought him". I just mean that if it is real, he won't join before january and that's normal if we take our time to officalize the deal. Nothing more, nothing less. I neither do know where this rumour comes from.

^ As I said, he won't leave Santos before january. So if by any chance we have bought him, he will just join us in january.

Me too. And apparently this was just a matter of few millions... Hope we haven't give up on him.

It could only be an amical agreement. Indeed, Ganso wants to play with Santos against Barça, and plans to come in Europe after that game, so in january. Thus, we will make this deal 'official' in the january window... It could be that....

Phew, for a minute I was dazed

Is this a joke...?

I still can't believe we have loaned a player to a rival team and help them to improve them-selves... What did our board was thinking.

Yep. Plus, I heard him speak yesterday on CTV, and he doesn't seem to be that good in english for someone who lives in UK for four years (just for the record lol).

Since I heard talking about him, he was descibed as a second striker.. I could be wrong though.

He isn't a midfielder.

If it is him, maybe we take time because we will only sign him in january.