I mentioned I've followed him since his PSV days. If you're going to use Barcelona as an example, every player on every team they come up against should be considered 'painfully average' because that's what this Barcelona team makes them look like. Real Madrid is an average team of average players because they get beaten 5-0 by Barcelona. I don't see the point in arguing with you though, you'd probably make some amusing comment about it because I didn't mention Rooney or whoever.