CurlyHairLikeLuiz

I am an Oscar fan but he was getting pushed off the ball more than Cesc on tuesday. Granted he was on the LW but he has been pushed out of the team by Ramires and Willian. Although the way Hazard's playing maybe we will see him come back vs Stoke.

If you watched, was he any good?

No, I thought he was good too - but obviously taken off to shore up the midfield.

Just saw the MOTD replay and they cut out the bit but there's just enough to see Zarate shout 'Yes!' and clutches his fists as the red is shown. Those cunts knew exactly what they were doing.

As for Jose I give him 3 games to turn the season around. Stoke away - keeping us in the Cup, Liverpool home, to show we can still compete at home in the PL, and the Dynamo home game to see if we still qualify for the CL. If we don't win/draw all of them I expect him to go.

I saw it with my own eyes. If it's on a highlights reel (the full thing) maybe it will be more obvious.

I suppose so... Although I think had Jose done his post match interview I think he would be banned for a very, very long time I would be ballistic too in his position.

I have no idea what minute it was but the ball was cleared to it, ran towards the keeper but went too far and the defenders caught up with him. Right before the Caroll goal, whenever that was.

Second yellowed, sorry. The first yellow was soft and it was the second yellow that was given to appease the crowd.

That's not the point; the referee originally did not deem it a red card offence, but combined player (Mark Noble was a key player in this, I saw) and crowd influence, as the CFC players were organising their box, the referee called over Matic well over a minute later, red carded him and the Hammers fans went wild. Disgusting - if we had done it we would be front page news for weeks.

Sorry but Mourinho was not at fault for losing this one, WHU players got Matic sent off (I saw it with my own eyes; they harangued the referee into giving out the second yellow when originally he refrained from the second booking, the Fabregas goal was allegedly onside (but that was at the other end, we could not see it), we were denied by brilliant defending with the goal-line save and finally two downright despicable misses from Hazard in his 1v1 with the keeper and the Ramires shot. If it was bad tactics by Mourinho I would understand but this time we were denied by incompetence of which both the ref and the players were culpable. I ripped up my ticket post match, that game made my blood boil, it really did. So, from what I saw. Player ratings: Amir Begovic - 6/10. Made a great save in the first half but conceding 2 will never leave a good mark on a goalie. Kurt Zouma - 3/10. Became the embodiment of Branislav Ivanovic, rubbish on every level and people just ran through him. Sorry but I must agree; at least Baba can attack. John Terry - 7/10. Regular performance by him, his side of Azpi-JT-Mikel was solid. Gary Cahill - 7/10. Scored a goal, did his best to cover for Kurt (who also looked lethargic) and ran the ball out of defence a few times. Normal service. Azpi - 7/10. See above. Ramires - 6/10. Good all round but should have scored so that knocks his rating down a little - at times he looked a little aimless Matic N/A - Did not deserve his red, got it at the mercy of the crowd, and therefore I will not blame him. Mikel - 7/10. Stepped in well, played the ball forward a few times and was generally a good holder. Fabregas - 8/10 (bear in mind I only had a half to judge him) he had a good game, put in tackles, played a few good balls, reflected by the fact his player thread is quiet. Subbed to shore up the Matic-less midfield. Hazard - 5/10. Should have finished his opportunity and usually dribbled nowhere to the corner flag, getting Azpi to send in a cross and getting completely aerially dominated. Willian - 9/10, MOTM. Nearly scored twice from free kicks, sent in the corner that we converted, dribbled well - he just needs to add shooting in open play to his game and all of a sudden he's a damn fine winger. Diego Costa - 6/10 got fouled a few times but needs to increase his presence and his dribbling as he does not get much support from the middle (heavily exacerbated by the 10-men) Falcao - N/A he wasn't very good but gets saved from the cut by not having enough time to really have an expectation from him.

I was there and he should have fucking scored that 1 on 1 and had he done so he would have stopped the resulting WH goal. Sorry but that's a chance Cahill could have finished.

Mourinho can say what he wants someone needsto stand up to the referee cunts that prick played to the crowd after being surrounded by the players fuck him I went to that game and that was a fucking farce

Not an unknown fact it was De B that pushed for the move, but Jose is the most obvious figure to blame since most people here don't know who our board consists of (I don't either)

He is perfect for this club.

Judging that MU are their major sponsor now I would imagine that they would probably send them up there unless he explicitly says he wants to live in London. I'd rather buy Neymar to be honest if we're going for a massive money signing. Plus it's a badly kept secret that Neymar is the next big thing in football marketing - I'd say Adidas would prefer to throw their weight behind that.

I'd rather not for the sake of Colkett...

Are you for real? The whole team last season contributed one way or another. It was the whole front 6 in the first half, scoring/assisting like mad, and then the back 5 held us together for the remainder after we stopped scoring so many. Sure, Hazard scored some goals and secured us many 3 points but if we had the Man City back 4 last year we would not have won the league. Hazard is replaceable. Nobody (nobody) wants to see him go - but Chelsea FC would not end if he were to go.

Whatever mate throw your tantrum somewhere else, please. Apply your own logic to yourself and it fits just as well as it does on me.

1. You can also argue that you can find a player like De Bruyne on the market. And you can. Sorry but that argument holds no water. You can buy anybody you want if you stump up the money. 2. Fabregas can hold his own tbf - even if it does not seem like it right now. In half a season he got 20 assists, and that's no mean feat considering he was dormant for the rest of the year. Is Mata really better? He has not shined at MU - at least not his self at Chelsea pre-Mourinho. 3. Selling younger players? We have 30 players out on loan and about 30 more in the youth teams - and probably a sixth of those will make t, it's too early in Mourinho's reign to say whether they will integrated, in the next few years Christensen, Baker, Solanke, Bamford etc etc will demand scrutiny into the first team. 4. Arsenal. (Maybe a little harsh but I can see similarities, the mentality, the fans - it reminds me of what you want)

Yes you can. Bless, you still think we're going to finish mid table, utter delusion. But feel free to try and belittle me to retreat - I won't. Lost our talents? We lost KdB. We have Hazard, we have Cesc (who will come back) we have Matic, we have Willian, we have Kenedy, we have RLC, I could go on. I'll tell you what we have; a team. And this team won the league 3 months ago - if you think that it's now only worthy of mid table you are utterly deluded.

Was Jose right to buy Matic, Diego, Fabregas, Willian? I'm sure your answer will concur with mine. And the irony in your post is that you can't see beyond your own view but yet you feel that you can lecture me in being one sided. I'm not denying that Jose has made mistakes but you can't pretend that he hasn't done good things too. And that is where we diverge: I can accept his failings (and it's a small ratio compared to the good he has done) and say that he's the right manager for Chelsea. You seem to want us to become an embodiment of Arsenal. And that's not an exaggeration.

Sorry, you harp on and on and on and on and on and on about KdB. IT WAS 2 YEARS AGO. 2 YEARS AGO, but now we're in a bad run of form all of a sudden it's back again. I've had enough of Jose being blatantly disrespected in a run of form he has never previously seen in his career - he should get a break, especially considering his history at the club. He's not a 'donkey of a coach' as Lucio referred to him as, he's possibly the best of his generation, and I also wouldn't need to respond to such comments if there weren't so many of them. I don't mind a structured reason why Mourinho should leave, but crying over spilt, 2 year old milk crying 'Waaaaaaa we're not playing well, it's all down to Mourinho selling KdB, fuck off Jose' is simply not good enough and you have no right to moan about me when you are antagonising the other half of the forum that don't want another 5 years of instability which everyone seems to have forgotten about.

Oh my God, let it go, it's getting embarrassing now.

Please, it would be on page 5 of every national news paper with campaigns to ban us from the football pyramid God forbid Millwall ever get promoted back to the PL.