Dion 2,476 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I'm still sad when missing you though. How have you been? Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I am doing fine! I informed my family member we might have guests in the future :-)How are you? Is she gone back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 What? I have heard of soul mates, but never sole mates! LMOA! I posted that from my phone so I must have misspelled 'Soul' and my auto-correct made it 'Sole'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I am doing fine! I informed my family member we might have guests in the future :-)How are you? Is she gone back?I'm fine, could be better, though. To Belgium? Nope. But she has less than a month in Brazil. She's gone to amazon forest last week, but I haven't spoken to her since. I'm not even sure if she has returned to town already.Btw, I wanna visit you so much, hahahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I'm fine, could be better, though. To Belgium? Nope. But she has less than a month in Brazil. She's gone to amazon forest last week, but I haven't spoke to her since then. I'm not even sure if she has returned to town already.Oowwww ....Not much freaky freaky as well I suppose ... Women are an enigma sometimes, i hope you are dealing with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Oowwww ....Not much freaky freaky as well I suppose ...Women are an enigma sometimes, i hope you are dealing with it.Yeah, they are, specially this one. Not much I can do about it, she's going away. I'll just let it be. Maybe we'll meet again in the streets of Ghent when I go find you, haha.PS: She has just texted me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Yeah, they are, specially this one. Not much I can do about it, she's going away. I'll just let it be. Maybe we'll meet again in the streets of Ghent when I go find you, haha.PS: She has just texted me.Belgian women ..... Guess they are a bit like Scottish ones. Dion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 @Stingray, Hey Tom, I read today something about over turning the bans on veils in Belgium. What's all that about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 @Stingray, Hey Tom, I read today something about over turning the bans on veils in Belgium. What's all that about?Well .... We had a restriction on 'religious symbol' in public functions here in belgium. My town now voted against that because we thought free expression is more important. So, the yarmulke, vail, cross .... are allowed to be caried freely for anyone. Everywhere here now. I do like my town. Ps: you would love uni here .... BluesChick and CHOULO19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Well .... We had a restriction on 'religious symbol' in public functions here in belgium. My town now voted against that because we thought free expression is more important. So, the yarmulke, vail, cross .... are allowed to be caried freely for anyone. Everywhere here now.I do like my town.Ps: you would love uni here ....I thought it would be against all religious symbols and not just veils as it was reported here. It's easy for me to say, as an atheist, that banning them would make for a more 'homogeneous' society, but who's to say that equates to a better society? Anyway, where do you stand on that? PS: With the way things are atm, I'd love any uni that's just not here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJames 729 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 **Wonders why Stingray so enthusiastically wants everyone to visit him* Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I thought it would be against all religious symbols and not just veils as it was reported here. It's easy for me to say, as an atheist, that banning them would make for a more 'homogeneous' society, but who's to say that equates to a better society? Anyway, where do you stand on that? PS: With the way things are atm, I'd love any uni that's just not here!Well ..... Difficult topic. Banning stuff (also in a secular non religious environment) creates .... Things you do not want! Radicalism, fanatics , .... Etc. You can only accept the differences and tackling true rule breakers. It is what we do when dealing with some here as well. I stand liberal. Very much so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 **Wonders why Stingray so enthusiastically wants everyone to visit him* Lol. Because I ..... like ..... you all. A lot ! DJames 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I think it's wrong to carry any religious symbol if you have a public function. It's not about free expression - when you have a public function you represent the state, the government. And Brazil is a laic state, it has no religion, I would assume Belgium is the same. Every individual exercising a public job is a representative of the state and as such should not be displaying any religious preference, at least not when doing his job functions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Well ..... Difficult topic.Banning stuff (also in a secular non religious environment) creates .... Things you do not want! Radicalism, fanatics , .... Etc.You can only accept the differences and tackling true rule breakers. It is what we do when dealing with some here as well.I stand liberal. Very much so.I'm actually not against banning them in certain places where you really don't need to express religious beliefs like unis like they did in France. But the problem with that is that veils, unlike crosses for example, are not 'optional'. In Islam all women HAVE to wear veils. It's like praying and fasting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I think it's wrong to carry any religious symbol if you have a public function. It's not about free expression, when you have a public function you represent the state, the government. And Brazil is a laic state, it has no religion, I would assume Belgium is the same. Every individual exercising a public job is a representative of the state and as such should not be displaying any religious preference, at least not when doing his job functions.True in principle ... But we generate extremism now because of that. Sharia4belgium/Uk being one of those organisations. The Woolwich slasher guy was connected very much. So .... How important is a display of religion in those marginal cases when a prohibition generates this much anti-feelings. I think it is foolh. The best of Christian-atheist-jewish-muslim living together in history was in الأندلس or Al-Andalus after 750... They still call it the golden age, the tactic was tolerance on religion. The dutch did the same in the 16-17 century and sparking science, trade and philosophy. We do forget what we as a species can do when we forget those petty difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I'm actually not against banning them in certain places where you really don't need to express religious beliefs like unis like they did in France. But the problem with that is that veils, unlike crosses for example, are not 'optional'. In Islam all women HAVE to wear veils. It's like praying and fasting. Ehm, you mean according to the Qur'an? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I'm actually not against banning them in certain places where you really don't need to express religious beliefs like unis like they did in France. But the problem with that is that veils, unlike crosses for example, are not 'optional'. In Islam all women HAVE to wear veils. It's like praying and fasting. According to Qur'an or those interpreting it .... Which is my point exactly, Nour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Ehm, you mean according to the Qur'an?Now that was simultaneous .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 True in principle ... But we generate extremism now because of that. Sharia4belgium/Uk being one of those organisations. The Woolwich slasher guy was connected very much.So .... How important is a display of religion in those marginal cases when a prohibition generates this much anti-feelings. I think it is foolh. The best of Christian-atheist-jewish-muslim living together in history was in الأندلس or Al-Andalus after 750...They still call it the golden age, the tactic was tolerance on religion.The dutch did the same in the 16-17 century and sparking science, trade and philosophy.We do forget what we as a species can do when we forget those petty difference.What about the anti-feelings I get if I'm a muslim and I go to court and there is this huge cross at the wall and in the necklace of the judge? I find that much worse.It's just common sense. Nobody is forcing you to have a public job, if you want one, abide by the rules and know you'll be representing the entire society in all of its differences, hence you should not be wearing your religious symbols. If you can't deal with that go find another job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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