Liquidator 5,176 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 There will be tears if it's my pal Mo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 looks like its Kurt Zouma on a loan dealhttp://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/540824/Chelsea-Kurt-Zouma-loan-January-Besiktas-Demba-Ba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thendo 1,088 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 It would be mad to loan Zouma to Besiktas without bringing back another cb from loan or buying a new one. One or two injuries and we would be in serious trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 It would be mad to loan Zouma to Besiktas without bringing back another cb from loan or buying a new one. One or two injuries and we would be in serious trouble.i agree mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 According to reports in Turkey, a Kurt Zouma loan to Besiktas is all but agreed and is set to be announced soon. #CFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 It would be mad to loan Zouma to Besiktas without bringing back another cb from loan or buying a new one. One or two injuries and we would be in serious trouble.Kalas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,710 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Mikel won't leave us, deal with it.Could be Salah or any youngster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viper22 2,418 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Zouma being loaned to Besiktas would be an incredibly strange move. He's our 3rd choice CB and has been getting some decent minutes this season so far. So either:1) We're loaning him outand recalling Kalas from his loan (he's getting no minutes at Koln after all).2) We're loaning him to make room for another CB that we're signing but then what does that mean for Kalas/Christensen and even Zouma himself? Surely wait til JT retires to sign another CB.3) We're loaning him and having just Ivanovic and Christensen as replacement CBs but then that's suicide. We'll only have 5 senior defenders and will be 1/2 injuries from complete crisis like someone else mentioned.1 would be fine in my mind, giving each of our young(ish) CBs a chance at the club being 3rd choice CB and would solve the problem of Kalas not being played at Koln and would invariably give Zouma some more minutes, albeit in a weaker league. 2 I wouldn't be keen on as it would likely mean the end of Kalas and I still rate him highly. 3 would be mental; I really doubt Mourinho would do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Zouma being loaned to Besiktas would be an incredibly strange move. He's our 3rd choice CB and has been getting some decent minutes this season so far. So either:1) We're loaning him outand recalling Kalas from his loan (he's getting no minutes at Koln after all).2) We're loaning him to make room for another CB that we're signing but then what does that mean for Kalas/Christensen and even Zouma himself? Surely wait til JT retires to sign another CB.3) We're loaning him and having just Ivanovic and Christensen as replacement CBs but then that's suicide. We'll only have 5 senior defenders and will be 1/2 injuries from complete crisis like someone else mentioned.1 would be fine in my mind, giving each of our young(ish) CBs a chance at the club being 3rd choice CB and would solve the problem of Kalas not being played at Koln and would invariably give Zouma some more minutes, albeit in a weaker league. 2 I wouldn't be keen on as it would likely mean the end of Kalas and I still rate him highly. 3 would be mental; I really doubt Mourinho would do this.Option 1 sounds good to me, everybody wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,595 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Kalas Kalas ain't good enough for a German team then he ain't good enough for us. So stop wasting your time thinking that we will be using a lot of young players. We will continue to buy ready made players for the foreseeable future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 We need to sign a top CB. Don't let the good run of form and the unbeaten run we're on fool you. Thinking ahead, or even for this season for the CL, we need a top CB. I honestly half expected us to sign someone this past summer and I am certain that we will get someone in the next two windows.First, the work load on Cahill and 34yo JT is just too much at the moment. It's lucky that we've had so many international breaks so that they can recover, especially John, but I still don't know how they're going to get through the busy Christmas period. A single injury to any of our defenders, and we'd have to play the same back four throughout the busy period and that's just a recipe for disaster. Even as it stands, one or two of the regulars (JT, Cahill, and Iva) are likely get burned out, or worse, suffer a muscular injury from exhaustion. From a tactical point of view, perhaps the only major weakness of our current side is the fact that we don't have a proactive CB to suite our style of pressing. We see it happen in almost every game, our midfielders press high and our CBs stay low because JT doesn't have the pace to recover and Cahill just shits himself if he has to defend 1vs1; this obviously leavse a gap between midfield and defense. We might be getting away with it now more often than not, but against top opposition in Europe you get punished for that. People talk about a right winger, but for me, the priority in the market is a CB in his prime and that is regardless of whether or not Zouma, or any of our other young CBs, get loaned out or stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveLamp 270 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Pleae let this mean Varane is coming.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Kalas ain't good enough for a German team then he ain't good enough for us. So stop wasting your time thinking that we will be using a lot of young players. We will continue to buy ready made players for the foreseeable future.Last time he was here, I think he is good enough to be backup. Koln just wasted him and that is not his fault nor ours.Kalas in, Zouma out sounds good to me. The gap quality is not that big, if it isn't almost the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,595 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Last time he was here, I think he is good enough to be backup. Koln just wasted him and that is not his fault nor ours.Kalas in, Zouma out sounds good to me. The gap quality is not that big, if it isn't almost the same.Seriously when you guys learn that we don't do youth? They have to do extremely well in loan for us to consider them like Courtois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Seriously when you guys learn that we don't do youth?They have to do extremely well in loan for us to consider them like Courtois.Didn't we talk about replacing Zouma with Kalas? do you realized we are talking about replacing 20 years old kid with 21 years old one?We're doing fine until now, what's the urgency to buy older and expensive player now, when we're not in 'crisis'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,595 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Didn't we talk about replacing Zouma with Kalas? do you realized we are talking about replacing 20 years old kid with 21 years old one?We're doing fine until now, what's the urgency to buy older and expensive player now, when we're not in 'crisis'?Whats the point of having another 20 year old in the bench? They need to play so they can grow. Like kdb with us. He sucked bad when he hardly play. Now when to a team when he's playing and doing good. So no, having a 20 year old to rot in the bench doesn't do anything for us or the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5354 204 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Didn't we talk about replacing Zouma with Kalas? do you realized we are talking about replacing 20 years old kid with 21 years old one?We're doing fine until now, what's the urgency to buy older and expensive player now, when we're not in 'crisis'?Thats what the fans will like to think what the club will do, but the club will not do that. Seems to me we are going to buy another CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusek 2,031 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Ba and Zouma in the same team, they look like twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Whats the point of having another 20 year old in the bench?They need to play so they can grow.Like kdb with us. He sucked bad when he hardly play.Now when to a team when he's playing and doing good.So no, having a 20 year old to rot in the bench doesn't do anything for us or the kid.Yes, if we think like that. But we're talking about Zouma possibly loaned out here for whatever reason and also it is happened in winter transfer window.First, Zouma is U21, and we must replace him with another U21 one, because our non HG quota is full. Kalas is the best choice imo, or do you have any better option U21 player?Second, I don't think it is wise decision to buy anyone in January, for Zouma replacement. The price will be sky high, and I doubt the player want to join, knowing that they will be on the bench most of the time, behind Terry and Cahill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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