Fulham Broadway 17,347 Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 Putting it in perspective, the troublemakers were a very small minority, and it was bound to happen given the emotive nature of the situation. Probably 0.01% of the population and not representative of by far the majority of Scottish people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Putting it in perspective, the troublemakers were a very small minority, and it was bound to happen given the emotive nature of the situation. Probably 0.01% of the population and not representative of by far the majority of Scottish people.Exactly!!And in all honesty the no people had said since last week that if no won they would have their own celebration.The yes people were allowed two days of burning saltires, clambering on the war cenotaph. They had spent their campaign intimidating people, spray painting 'vote yes and you will be shot' on polling stations. A blind better together campaigner was attacked. I myself was shouted at in the street for simply wearing a no thanks badge.Yet the majority of these bad events were hidden in the media.The yes campaign lost, they had two days in George square, the police should have moved them on and allowed the no people the same respect and freedom allowed to the yes. This didn't happen they stayed and caused a fight between people who were entitled to celebrate. It was very interesting to me so many cameras there to capture the 'big bad unionists' but were nowhere to be seen when the yes people were carrying on the night before.I know people who were there and there was a lot of parents and young children and the vast MAJORITY just wanted to celebrate us saving the union.There is extremists on both sides and I hope we all just move on and I hope the giant fractures this referendum has created in our society are left behind and we can all work together for a better Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,330 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 Putting it in perspective, the troublemakers were a very small minority, and it was bound to happen given the emotive nature of the situation. Probably 0.01% of the population and not representative of by far the majority of Scottish people.Personally, I expected it to be a hell of a lot worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 The funniest thing in a bunch of news reports they used the line 'they sang Rule Britannia' OMG, didn't realise such a wonderful song was so frowned upon, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 231 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Oh the big bad no voters and Unionists!The fact is we could go tit-for-tat all night. Both sides had a bad element to it. The riots started on Friday night because they were provoked.Elements from the BNP, csc and green brigade all showed up to make their statements for their respective voting interests.Yes camp are hurting bad after being promised the world, built up full of false hope then dropped like a tonne of bricks and now they are looking to tarnish the name of not only those who voted no but also Great Britain.There is absolutely no excuse for the scenes in George Square on Friday night. Union Flags were set alight a couple of nights previous. The burning a Saltire was the reaction of few idiotic individuals (for whatever reason i don't know) who thought it would be a good idea to hit back at the 'other side'.What now needs to happen is that the bitterness is downed and everybody pulls together to work towards the goals of everybody in a newly enlightened nation because whether you voted Yes or No, the vote was cast in the best interests of everybody in the country. It's how you viewed what was best and what you prioritised that made the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 It brought the sectarian divide to the forefront and it was bad from both sides it was just sad only one side was broadcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,347 Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 Glasgow was always going to kick off, getting a majority Yes vote, but its a minority.End of the day its all positive. Scotland will get stronger. Complacent Eton Oxbridge educated Westminster shaken up, concessions for Scotland, more power, and now Wales and England want more powers, and decentralisation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 231 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The referendum should never have happened without the clear majority of the country which it never had. Thats what created the tension. If, like other countries going for independence they had 70/80/90% support it wouldn't have divded a country. Glasgow has always been a divided city and probably will be for a long long time to come!Yes campaign had a big loud, vocal campaign and thats the main reason it done as well as it did and gained such huge support. Darling failed himself in the second debate but No was always a silent majority. If the referendum was never brought up it wouldn't have been an issue for most people and now that independence didn't go through 45% of Scotland is acting like the world has ended.The police were expecting trouble in the event of a NO vote given the agressive behaviour of the yes side the previous few days.Shame on anybody on Friday out causing trouble and behaving in like small minded bigots, bringing the efforts of others into disrepute, whether they carried a Union Flag or a Saltire. They weren't representitives of no voters, yes voters, Rangers, Scotland or Great Britain, but only of themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The referendum should never have happened without the clear majority of the country which it never had. Thats what created the tension. If, like other countries going for independence they had 70/80/90% support it wouldn't have divded a country. Glasgow has always been a divided city and probably will be for a long long time to come!Yes campaign had a big loud, vocal campaign and thats the main reason it done as well as it did and gained such huge support. Darling failed himself in the second debate but No was always a silent majority. If the referendum was never brought up it wouldn't have been an issue for most people and now that independence didn't go through 45% of Scotland is acting like the world has ended.The police were expecting trouble in the event of a NO vote given the agressive behaviour of the yes side the previous few days.Shame on anybody on Friday out causing trouble and behaving in like small minded bigots, bringing the efforts of others into disrepute, whether they carried a Union Flag or a Saltire. They weren't representitives of no voters, yes voters, Rangers, Scotland or Great Britain, but only of themselves.It was also the people on Wed and Thursday night who I am ashamed of. The yes people shoud not have commandeered George square and did what they did while there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 231 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 It was also the people on Wed and Thursday night who I am ashamed of. The yes people shoud not have commandeered George square and did what they did while there.Yep totally agree. People can turn a blind eye when it suits them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC RYAN CFC 59 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The yes campaign sparked this over the last few weeks with there threats and actions. The no voters or some of them said if we won the vote between 6 and 6.30 on Friday there would be a gathering in Glasgow now if you were a yes voter I am convinced the last please you would have been was Glasgow on Friday night. Also a think it was a flare being lite rather than a saltire set on fire as when I seen it advertised it said bring your saltire flags as well as union flags. The last line of jambo's post is spot on just the media up here are used to laying into Rangers fans sorry but it's true. Every crowd has its idiots just like Manchester a few years 200,000 fans most drinking all day there is going to be trouble. The person that needs to take most of the responsibility for this is Alex Salmond it's his shite that started it and could split this country up for a little while yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 The yes campaign sparked this over the last few weeks with there threats and actions. The no voters or some of them said if we won the vote between 6 and 6.30 on Friday there would be a gathering in Glasgow now if you were a yes voter I am convinced the last please you would have been was Glasgow on Friday night. Also a think it was a flare being lite rather than a saltire set on fire as when I seen it advertised it said bring your saltire flags as well as union flags. The last line of jambo's post is spot on just the media up here are used to laying into Rangers fans sorry but it's true. Every crowd has its idiots just like Manchester a few years 200,000 fans most drinking all day there is going to be trouble. The person that needs to take most of the responsibility for this is Alex Salmond it's his shite that started it and could split this country up for a little while yet.Exactly well said. He made an existing divide huge and has now walked away and left. There was an interesting article on the day of the referendum and it said that secretly Salmond wanted an no vote as he knew deep down he couldn't deliver. I think that is true he didn't come across crestfallen as I expected he might have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 231 Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 And not only did he make an existing divide bigger here in Glasgow but he also divided the rest of the country for something that wasn't an issue for 99% of the country until two years ago. Then they started getting all the false promises, believed it and thought this might be quite good here. Salmond has now resorted to mud slinging rather than taking the result with grace and dignity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,347 Posted September 27, 2014 Author Share Posted September 27, 2014 ALEX Salmond has been asked if he would like to run Syria for a bit.The Scottish First Minister, who still has ‘lead a nation’ on his To Do list, has been offered the post because of a shortage of non-genocidal candidates.UN secretary-general Ban Ki-Moon said: “We were wondering who could draw a disparate nation at war with itself together under a threadbare banner of nationalism.“Salmond’s got a track record of not-complete failure and if he can fool one nation with a string of vague utopian promises, he can do it with two.“They even wear skirts. It’s ideal.”Salmond is seriously considering the idea, but is annoyed that he was the UN’s second choice after they were turned down by Sven-Goran Eriksson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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