The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 I really thought it was more tongue in cheeck tbh ... Whatever it seemed like one of those silly throw away remarks. Even if tongue in cheek, unnecessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonaaibosk 191 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 It is astonishing how many people on here when they say something as rude as above, think that the original poster will care about your opinion of them. Wow my credibility and knowledge has been questioned by a random person in a forum, as if I give a flying f*** .I have an opinion, just because you disagree doesn't not mean that you have no football knowledge or that I do. I have been watching sport for decades and have a pretty extensive knowledge your snide remarks doesn't change that.Well then isn't it ironic that you think that I'd care about your long winded reply then?FWIW, if you truly believe that Messi is mediocre, I'd be interested to know your reasons why, and who you actually think is better than him?Seriously you don't win the as many honours as Messi by being mediocre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 I think Ronaldo is better and you clearly care a bit to reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonaaibosk 191 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 So you think Ronaldo is better, that's fair enough, many people do. Is that it? Surely Ronaldo isn't the only player on the planet who is mediocre?What is it that makes Messi mediocre?P.S. I'm not claiming that I don't care (I'm interested in debate with everyone here) I just found it ironic that you claimed not to care, yet replied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 What is it that makes Messi mediocre?Could NOT resist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 Lol, I didn't care about you questioning my knowledge not your opinion on the matter as I stated above.Ronaldo is outstanding not mediocre.I just feel Messi is in team and a league that makes him look good, many of his goals are tap ins and he didn't do a lot against Celtic which upsets me. Lol Look at the individual awards Ronaldo was getting whilst at Utd, he was beating Messi to awards yet, same player even more brilliant more goals in Spain but no awards?? I just personally would have liked to see how he did at Chelsea and PL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 Could NOT resist That is true did you see those pants of Ronaldo's, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonaaibosk 191 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Lol, I didn't care about you questioning my knowledge not your opinion on the matter as I stated above.Ronaldo is outstanding not mediocre.I just feel Messi is in team and a league that makes him look good, many of his goals are tap ins and he didn't do a lot against Celtic which upsets me. Lol Look at the individual awards Ronaldo was getting whilst at Utd, he was beating Messi to awards yet, same player even more brilliant more goals in Spain but no awards?? I just personally would have liked to see how he did at Chelsea and PLWell that's rather confusing, given that Ronaldo plays in the exact same league and plays in a team built around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I think what she's trying to say is Ronaldo is proven in two leagues. Against Stoke and Chelsea to Barcelona and Osasuna. Messi thrives on Xavi and Iniesta while Ronaldo's done it in way different conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 Exactly!Barca are more liked than Real for whatever reason so no matter how well Ronaldo and Jose did, Messi and Guardolia won, so much so they didnt bother going to the awards shows. I would want Jose and Ronaldo any day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 What does Ronaldo being better than Messi (in your view) has anything to do with calling Lionel mediocre?Do you mean anyone else besides Cristiano is average then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 I think what she's trying to say is Ronaldo is proven in two leagues. Against Stoke and Chelsea to Barcelona and Osasuna. Messi thrives on Xavi and Iniesta while Ronaldo's done it in way different conditions.Yes exactlyWhat does Ronaldo being better than Messi (in your view) has anything to do with calling Lionel mediocre?Do you mean anyone else besides Cristiano is average then?No but they are on a different level everyone knows that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonaaibosk 191 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 If everyone knows it then why does Messi continue to break records and win Ballon d'or awards then?I can accept people having the opinion that Ronaldo is better (although I believe that to be wrong) but to call Messi mediocre is absolutely ridiculous. He'd walk into any team in the world and be a first pick. Anyone who claims otherwise needs to stay off the glue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonaaibosk 191 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Also if Messi is mediocre then players such as David Villa and Zlatan Ibrahimovic who struggled at Barcelona must be shit then eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 No but they are on a different level everyone knows thatIf they are on another level, how come you said Messi was mediocre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 I meant Ronaldo and Jose not Messi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonaaibosk 191 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Can I ask, if the reason you think Messi is mediocre is because he has only ever done what he does, at Barcelona. Does that mean that Paul Scholes wasn't one of the best players ever to have played in the EPL because he only ever played for Man Utd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 Thread derailed... Keep calm and carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Share Posted November 7, 2013 Yes!!! Chances are any other team and without Fergie , Giggs and Scholes wouldn't have played as long. I think they are great but still true. Much like I truly believe Gerrard is a much better than the trophies they he has won but that's Liverpools fault.After many years of no trophies, weeks in Fabergas won with Barca, does that suddenly make him wonderful, nope. Moyes as a manager never won anything then wins cup with Utd straight away, he's still a shit manager .I am not going to argue all night. I disagree with you get over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonaaibosk 191 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 You don't just disagree with me though, you disagree with the most respected opinions of world football who see Messi as good enough to be the only player in the world to have ever won the FIFA Ballon d'or. The mind boggles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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