Referee attempts suicide ahead of game!

[eldo 868]

If someone wants to commit suicide, then that's their fucking choice. Who are you to say he can't?

As simple as that.

They need help.

[Kez 2,727]

If someone wants to commit suicide, then that's their fucking choice. Who are you to say he can't?

As simple as that.

Who's saying that he can't? I'm saying that he should be given help to overcome depression, not just left to die.

[Naked Mole Rat 437]

It is his choice to kill himself but that doesn't mean people shouldn't try and help. And I personally will never be able to let a person die if I could save them. Btw, isn't it illegal to just stand by and do nothing even if someone decided to kill himself?

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I guess that's totally different but the way CHOULO19 worded his post I feel was insensitive to the ref & his family. It's a moral decision & as human's paramedics know that it is morally right & their job to save people. We obviously don't know the facts & whether the ref asked for DNR, but people with depression should be given all the help they can be given to overcome it.

I suppose so. I don't know, I've known people in such situations.. Sometimes people just don't want the help, we cannot blame them. For some people, it's better for them that they can end their life on their terms. It's tough waters we're going into with such discussions. It's like the Enke situation, he'd been depressed for a while, saw therapists and all. But even something like the World Cup couldn't help him, so you can understand.

It is his choice to kill himself but that doesn't mean people shouldn't try and help. And I personally will never be able to let a person die if I could save them. Btw, isn't it illegal to just stand by and do nothing even if someone decided to kill himself?

No.

It's illegal to assist them.. For now it is anyway.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I wasn't making an assumption about you, if it came across that way then I apologise, it was just a general example, but until you experience something like that for yourself you can never tell how you will react. Grief does strange things to a person, especially suicide, it can leave a family asking many questions about why it's happened, why they were left to die, & if something more could of been done to prevent it.

I guess that's totally different but the way CHOULO19 worded his post I feel was insensitive to the ref & his family. It's a moral decision & as human's paramedics know that it is morally right & their job to save people. We obviously don't know the facts & whether the ref asked for DNR, but people with depression should be given all the help they can be given to overcome it.

I guess it's a matter of belief, so let's just agree do disagree on this one..

[Kez 2,727]

I suppose so. I don't know, I've known people in such situations.. Sometimes people just don't want the help, we cannot blame them. For some people, it's better for them that they can end their life on their terms. It's tough waters we're going into with such discussions. It's like the Enke situation, he'd been depressed for a while, saw therapists and all. But even something like the World Cup couldn't help him, so you can understand.

Well help should be offered no matter what, we shouldn't turn our back on people in that situation, they may not want the help but if you try & help 10 people and you save just one of them then surely them efforts are worth it.

[eldo 868]

No.

It's illegal to assist them.. For now it is anyway.

Doctors and paramedics have to help.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Well help should be offered no matter what, we shouldn't turn our back on people in that situation, they may not want the help but if you try & help 10 people and you save just one of them then surely them efforts are worth it.

I agree, it should be offered. However most suicide victims, when they decide that's what they want to do, there's only so much that can be done to prolong the made-decision.

[Kez 2,727]

I agree, it should be offered. However most suicide victims, when they decide that's what they want to do, there's only so much that can be done to prolong the made-decision.

Sometimes it's a cry for help as well. But I know what you are saying, some people are beyond that stage where they can be helped.