Naked Mole Rat 437 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 It is his choice to kill himself but that doesn't mean people shouldn't try and help. And I personally will never be able to let a person die if I could save them. Btw, isn't it illegal to just stand by and do nothing even if someone decided to kill himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I guess that's totally different but the way CHOULO19 worded his post I feel was insensitive to the ref & his family. It's a moral decision & as human's paramedics know that it is morally right & their job to save people. We obviously don't know the facts & whether the ref asked for DNR, but people with depression should be given all the help they can be given to overcome it.I suppose so. I don't know, I've known people in such situations.. Sometimes people just don't want the help, we cannot blame them. For some people, it's better for them that they can end their life on their terms. It's tough waters we're going into with such discussions. It's like the Enke situation, he'd been depressed for a while, saw therapists and all. But even something like the World Cup couldn't help him, so you can understand.It is his choice to kill himself but that doesn't mean people shouldn't try and help. And I personally will never be able to let a person die if I could save them. Btw, isn't it illegal to just stand by and do nothing even if someone decided to kill himself?No.It's illegal to assist them.. For now it is anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I wasn't making an assumption about you, if it came across that way then I apologise, it was just a general example, but until you experience something like that for yourself you can never tell how you will react. Grief does strange things to a person, especially suicide, it can leave a family asking many questions about why it's happened, why they were left to die, & if something more could of been done to prevent it.I guess that's totally different but the way CHOULO19 worded his post I feel was insensitive to the ref & his family. It's a moral decision & as human's paramedics know that it is morally right & their job to save people. We obviously don't know the facts & whether the ref asked for DNR, but people with depression should be given all the help they can be given to overcome it.I guess it's a matter of belief, so let's just agree do disagree on this one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I suppose so. I don't know, I've known people in such situations.. Sometimes people just don't want the help, we cannot blame them. For some people, it's better for them that they can end their life on their terms. It's tough waters we're going into with such discussions. It's like the Enke situation, he'd been depressed for a while, saw therapists and all. But even something like the World Cup couldn't help him, so you can understand.Well help should be offered no matter what, we shouldn't turn our back on people in that situation, they may not want the help but if you try & help 10 people and you save just one of them then surely them efforts are worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldo 868 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 No.It's illegal to assist them.. For now it is anyway.Doctors and paramedics have to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Well help should be offered no matter what, we shouldn't turn our back on people in that situation, they may not want the help but if you try & help 10 people and you save just one of them then surely them efforts are worth it.I agree, it should be offered. However most suicide victims, when they decide that's what they want to do, there's only so much that can be done to prolong the made-decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kez 2,727 Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 I agree, it should be offered. However most suicide victims, when they decide that's what they want to do, there's only so much that can be done to prolong the made-decision.Sometimes it's a cry for help as well. But I know what you are saying, some people are beyond that stage where they can be helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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