Who here is racist?

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I'd say Indians are racist, to an extent. The way Africans or Blacks are portrayed in the media gives away the fact that some Indians consider them inferior because of their skin colour. In Indian movies you'd often find Blacks playing the role of mafia henchmen or other such anti-social elements. While we have an obsession with white skin and fairness creams for example make a fortune selling their stuff here. There's a very popular brand "Fair & Lovely" - I guess you know what I mean when they immediately follow the word 'fair' with 'lovely'.

Thats a very lopsided view you have there. White people are obsessed with Tanning products, machines, parlors, etc. What does it prove? It works both ways. Brown people are obsessed with wanting to be fair although alot of Indians are quite Fair specially as you go up north and Fair people wanna be brown, cus thats "Sexy" according to them.

[Blue In Green 86]

Personally I'm ashamed how segregated the US still is...it's 2011.

Then again, people were still being lynched for being black in the 90s.

Having a black president is a huge step forward, but that woke up seditious right-wing elements that had been dormant for some time. Those of a certain age can remember the era of the "Dixiecrats", when the George Wallaces and Strom Thurmonds gave fiery speeches in front of Confederate flags and when the National Guard had to force certain Southern universities to integrate.

The tea party movement would never have started if President Obama had lost the 2008 election. They never exhume President Bush's economic policy, yet they freak out when President Obama does the same things. They tell Latin Americans to go back to their country, yet are unwilling to do the work they do. Fox News and the conservative talk radio windbags are as popular as they are because of their willingness to twist facts, statements and scenarios into shocking, revolting "stories" eagerly digested and spewed by their ignorant rural, racist, sexist, jingoistic Gawd-fearing audience. I live alongside some of them, and the things that come out of their mouths are stunning. It's as if they want to live in 1875.

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Thats a very lopsided view you have there. White people are obsessed with Tanning products, machines, parlors, etc. What does it prove? It works both ways. Brown people are obsessed with wanting to be fair although alot of Indians are quite Fair specially as you go up north and Fair people wanna be brown, cus thats "Sexy" according to them.

Not concerned about what white people do, tbh. And either way, it's really not as bad as in India where if you go into the interiors or even in some of the 'big' cities, you'd find people unwilling to marry a dark-skinned girl, for example. Or being given lesser preference than a lighter-skinned girl based on no considerations other than skin tone. You'd find matrimonial ads looking for "thin, fair and beautiful" brides from " a good family", immediately implying that dark ones are all but those things. We as a nation are obsessed with white skin. I'm aware this isn't prevalent all throughout the country, but it is an alarming situation, imo anyway.

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I never dispensed your argument that we are obsessed with being fair. All I am saying is it is not fair to call the Indians racist just because they want a fair bride (although this happens with only narrow minded Indians. Not all Indians are like that). White people are obsessed with tanned skin. So? It's a human tendency to want what you don't have. Why do you see people sunbathing?

India is a racist country no doubt but to say they are racist because they are obsessed with being fair is Wrong.

90% of Indians would go bezerk if someone in their family married a white girl or had a white girl friend. That proves that they aren't obsessed with Fair skin.

You know what racism is? Hatred against ones race. What you are talking about is people wanting something they don't have an tag them racist. Which is Wrong.

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I never dispensed your argument that we are obsessed with being fair. All I am saying is it is not fair to call the Indians racist just because they want a fair bride (although this happens with only narrow minded Indians. Not all Indians are like that). White people are obsessed with tanned skin. So? It's a human tendency to want what you don't have. Why do you see people sunbathing?

India is a racist country no doubt but to say they are racist because they are obsessed with being fair is Wrong.

90% of Indians would go bezerk if someone in their family married a white girl or had a white girl friend. That proves that they aren't obsessed with Fair skin.

You know what racism is? Hatred against ones race. What you are talking about is people wanting something they don't have an tag them racist. Which is Wrong.

First you admit we're obsessed with white skin, then you say 90% aren't. Bit contradictory there.

To my mind, being obsessed with white skin reveals a deep seeded dislike for one's own appearance and indeed those of others who happen to be dark. Why are South Indians referred to derogatorily as "kaalia"? It's often passed off as being merely in innocence and jest, but is it really? I don't think so, not in some cases any way. Have you seen the way in which Blacks are portrayed in the entertainment mediums here? Tell me that's not due to an inherent superiority complex we feel we have over them.

And you say most people would 'go bezerk' if someone from the family happened to have a white girlfriend. Why so? Is that not unfair bias against a race?

The white skin bias for me is a metaphor for our approval of anything and everything Western. I never said all Indians are racist, that is naturally impossible in any country of the world. Certainly there's little or no racial violence here, unless the subject of race gets mixed with alleged religious propaganda, which is a volatile cocktail (eg. Graham Staines,1999).

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First you admit we're obsessed with white skin, then you say 90% aren't. Bit contradictory there.

That's how Indians are. Hypocritical. They like white skin, they are obsessed with being fair in a similar way that whites are obssessed with getting a tan. There is nothig racist about it. But 90% of indians would not have a white guy or a woman marry member of their family which makes you wonder if they are as obsessed as you are trying to potray them? Now that's a racist society cus they don't like people from other races as part of their families.

I know it's contradictory but that's how the society in india is.

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Indians seem quite racist to Afro British and Afro Carribeans here in England. They call them ''Boonas''

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To my mind, being obsessed with white skin reveals a deep seeded dislike for one's own appearance and indeed those of others who happen to be dark. Why are South Indians referred to derogatorily as "kaalia"? It's often passed off as being merely in innocence and jest, but is it really? I don't think so, not in some cases any way. Have you seen the way in which Blacks are portrayed in the entertainment mediums here? Tell me that's not due to an inherent superiority complex we feel we have over them.

Well there is no harm in wanting what you don't have? If dark skinned people want to be fair and fair people want to be brown then what's the harm? It's just like saying plastic surgery is bad which it is and shows a strong dislike towards oneself.

Kaalia is derogatory? It's as derogatory as Black in English. Both words mean the same.

I can show you several instances where Indians have made mockery of white men in media.

No offense to anyone here but Indians in india consider whites as stupid and innocent cash cows and would milk them for money cus they consider themselves street smart which they are.

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That's how Indians are. Hypocritical. They like white skin, they are obsessed with being fair in a similar way that whites are obssessed with getting a tan. There is nothig racist about it. But 90% of indians would not have a white guy or a woman marry member of their family which makes you wonder if they are as obsessed as you are trying to potray them? Now that's a racist society cus they don't like people from other races as part of their families.

I know it's contradictory but that's how the society in india is.

Yeah that's true. We're a land of contradictions

Indians seem quite racist to Afro British and Afro Carribeans here in England. They call them ''Boonas''

Not surprised, it is a common trait among Indians to feel superior to Blacks.

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Well there is no harm in wanting what you don't have? If dark skinned people want to be fair and fair people want to be brown then what's the harm? It's just like saying plastic surgery is bad which it is and shows a strong dislike towards oneself.

I don't know, to me it's less about wanting something you don't have, more about being almost apologetic about what you already have.

Kaalia is derogatory? It's as derogatory as Black in English. Both words mean the same.

Yes the word means 'black' but it's not the word itself, it's the way in which it is spoken that gives away the true intention behind saying it. "Ae kaalia idhar aa" is racist as far as I'm concerned.

I can show you several instances where Indians have made mockery of white men in media.

No offense to anyone here but Indians in india consider whites as stupid and innocent cash cows and would milk them for money cus they consider themselves street smart which they are.

True, but there again it's a different thought process where white women are concerned. There's a perception among the more rural folks for example that white women are outgoing, in a slutty kind of way. They're objects of desire, to put it bluntly.

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And you say most people would 'go bezerk' if someone from the family happened to have a white girlfriend. Why so? Is that not unfair bias against a race?

The white skin bias for me is a metaphor for our approval of anything and everything Western. I never said all Indians are racist, that is naturally impossible in any country of the world. Certainly there's little or no racial violence here, unless the subject of race gets mixed with alleged religious propaganda, which is a volatile cocktail (eg. Graham Staines,1999).

It is racist nature isn't it? But you have been banging on about how we love white and hate black. Well here is an example of our society's dislike towards white as well even though we are apparently obsessed with white skin.

Yes there is no racial violence here. But that doesnt change the fact that we are a racist country. True We don't beat up people from other races like the nazi skin heads but we have our own ways of showing discrimination. there is religious violence and violence between different caste.

Bottom line is the country is obsessed with discrimination.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=768h3Tz4Qik

Funny.

But on a serious note, Immigrants help the economy a lot.

Just that politics are retard and can't come with a better plan.

Have the immigrants pay a fee for coming illegally, kick out the people with bad criminal record, have the people staying learn English, and show patriotism for their new country! Not Mexico, Colombia, Ecuador or stuff like that. If you are in America, and want to be in America, then you are AMERICAN! Not Latino!!!

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It is racist nature isn't it? But you have been banging on about how we love white and hate black. Well here is an example of our society's dislike towards white as well even though we are apparently obsessed with white skin.

Yes there is no racial violence here. But that doesnt change the fact that we are a racist country. True We don't beat up people from other races like the nazi skin heads but we have our own ways of showing discrimination. there is religious violence and violence between different caste.

Bottom line is the country is obsessed with discrimination.

Yes we are a racist country, never disputed that. Don't think any sane person would deny it, tbh.

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Indians seem quite racist to Afro British and Afro Carribeans here in England. They call them ''Boonas''

There is often cold vibes between north and south india. Northern india is where you have the fair skinned people from the Aryan race and southern india is where you have the darker skinned people who are from the Dravidian race.

Therefore it's not just limited to Africans

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There is often cold vibes between north and south india. Northern india is where you have the fair skinned people from the Aryan race and southern india is where you have the darker skinned people who are from the Dravidian race.

Therefore it's not just limited to Africans

Interesting. This sounds a bit 'knit your own yogurt' but the sooner people realise people are just people the better..

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Funny.

But on a serious note, Immigrants help the economy a lot.

Just that politics are retard and can't come with a better plan.

Have the immigrants pay a fee for coming illegally, kick out the people with bad criminal record, have the people staying learn English, and show patriotism for their new country! Not Mexico, Colombia, Ecuador or stuff like that. If you are in America, and want to be in America, then you are AMERICAN! Not Latino!!!

The U.S.-Mexico fan distribution at the Rose Bowl a few weeks back says otherwise. The situation is very similar to the Turks in Germany, ignored for so long that they created their own social constructs. Both sides chose to be separate, so it isn't surprising that some Latinos don't identify themselves as Americans.

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The U.S.-Mexico fan distribution at the Rose Bowl a few weeks back says otherwise. The situation is very similar to the Turks in Germany, ignored for so long that they created their own social constructs. Both sides chose to be separate, so it isn't surprising that some Latinos don't identify themselves as Americans.

That should stop.

I don't want no more of that crap. You either like our country and want to be American, or leave!

I am for immigrants, but they must support our country and be one with our country.

A separate nation will never prosper.

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That should stop.

I don't want no more of that crap. You either like our country and want to be American, or leave!

I am for immigrants, but they must support our country and be one with our country.

A separate nation will never prosper.

I agree, but the process will be extremely difficult. There may be second generation American-born who don't see themselves as American, yet go to American schools, etc. The legal ramifications alone would cause aneurysms. The politicians will never address the problem because it's "controversial" and they don't want to lose votes.