Egyptian Revolution continues.........

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

Didn't the French revolution change the world or a least the way (some) people look at it? The Egyptian revolution will be a success if they achieve something similar in the Arab world.

All it did was give some Jacobins more vocal power and made some nobles a bit paranoid. For the French they had a pretty shit time during the Reign of Terror

[Fulham Broadway 16,848]

I see the Egyptian cops that shot and killed protesters have been ''suspended''. Should have been from a lampost....

[Blueman 57]

I see the Egyptian cops that shot and killed protesters have been ''suspended''. Should have been from a lampost....

Yes that's one of the reasons we are extremely mad.

So far not even one cup has been tried or convicted for killing our protestors.

How in the blue hell does killing an unarmed peaceful protestor result in a suspension.

[Blueman 57]

Egypt's ruling military junta has made a defiant response to the wave of recent protests, writes a busy Jack Shenker in Cairo.The army's legitimacy has been called sharply into question by days of unrest in Cairo, Suez and Alexandria.

In a response Mohsen El-Fangari - spokesperson for the supreme council of the armed forces (SCAF) - delivered a short and threatening TV address. He announced that the military did not intend to "abdicate" its responsibility during the tricky, post-Mubarak transition period. He also sternly warned against anyone seeking to disrupt public order.

El-Fangari was a one-time hero of the revolutionaries back in February after he offered a televised salute to the martyrs killed in this year's anti-Mubarak uprising, but his latest speech (delivered in a stage-villain growl) has not endeared him to anyone.

Even as El-Fangari spoke, demonstrators occupying Tahrir Square held aloft their shoes in a message of defiance strongly reminiscent of the reaction to Hosni Mubarak's speeches in the final days of his rule, when the former president failed completely to understand or reflect the level of public anger that was mounting against him.

Activists flocked to Twitter to air their fury at the speech, which comes just a couple of hours ahead of a planned march towards the cabinet building by Egyptians calling for the resignation of the interim prime minister Essam Sharaf.

This is fairly typical of the response on the network: "You've gassed us, beaten us, shot us, electrocuted us and tortured us...do you honestly think yelling at us is gonna work dumbass? #fangary"

Sharaf has promised a major cabinet reshuffle to clear the government of Mubarak-era officials, but protesters - who are carrying out ongoing sit-ins in cities across Egypt, including Alexandria and Suez - have clearly lost faith in the entire model of military-led transitional rule and don't believe that Sharaf is powerful enough to stand up to SCAF and implement their demands.

There have already been violent scuffles inside Tahrir this morning. Right now we're awaiting a further press conference from SCAF and then the march itself at 5pm local time. The political landscape of Egypt could not be more volatile at the moment, and I'm sure we'll be seeing some fairly significant developments across the next few hours.

From the Guardian

http://www.guardian....ast-unrest-live

[Fulham Broadway 16,848]

Everything changes but nothing changes -Tahrir Square with the same amount of people as when Mubarek was ousted.

Best of luck with the reforms -and it's good that the people arent just accepting the military juntas suggestion of reshuffling the cabinet. The people deserve a real change now.

I think what you will find is that Sharaf wants to hang on to Mubareks cronies because of outside pressure ie Western governments, because that is who they did the immediate post-Mubarek deals with. but its untenable that the corrupt civil servants and cops should remain in their positions -when it was they who oversaw the shootings and corrupt practices.

Unfortunately it looks as though there will be more conflict -a real situation -which puts the football on this forum -(mock warfare fuelled by billionaires) in perspective

[Fulham Broadway 16,848]

Hosni Mubarek on that gurney wheeled into court like a washed up Hannibal Lechter is down to one thing -people out on the streets, and then out on the streets again. The animals take over the farm when they realise their potential. We have so much more strength than the morally bankrupt millionaires......

[Blueman 57]

Hosni Mubarek on that gurney wheeled into court like a washed up Hannibal Lechter is down to one thing -people out on the streets, and then out on the streets again. The animals take over the farm when they realise their potential. We have so much more strength than the morally bankrupt millionaires......

I couldn't believe my eyes when I first saw him being wheeled out.

It really hit home what we have accomplished thus far. I just hope he gets what he deserves. I won't settle for anything less than life in prison for him and his cronies.

Now off to try and elect a democratic president.

[Fulham Broadway 16,848]

I couldn't believe my eyes when I first saw him being wheeled out.

It really hit home what we have accomplished thus far. I just hope he gets what he deserves. I won't settle for anything less than life in prison for him and his cronies.

Now off to try and elect a democratic president.

Inspiration to us all -we've got Osborne holidaying in US, Cameron in his Tuscan Villa, and Clegg having a luxury freebie in France -they can all fucking stay there.

Yes the Egyptian people have acomplished a lot. Wouldnt trust those military replacements though

Our media is suppressing the news of the movements in Greece (attack on Syntagma, palns for 3 Sept.), Spain (Another siege of Parliament in Madrid, the clearance of Campa del Sol, assemblies in other squares), Belgium (100.000 marched in the last few days, mass assemblies) , Berlin- (against high rents), Israel (against the economic situation-unity between arabs and jews in Jenin), and Google has pulled it’s ‘Realtime’ feature, so that twitter feeds are not easily accessible- there is plenty much going on, but the fuckers that control the commodity that is information are ensuring most people don’t get to hear about it….

This is gonna be the dominant trend in the months and years to come, as movements inspire and support one another across borders- the class war has moved into cyberspace, and the streets, good and proper.If we see the predicted ‘Mother of All crashes’ it will be imperative to share as much info as we can get our hands, (or cursors), on

[warnie_666 1,081]

Just watched the Frontline documentary on Egyptian Revolution. Its amazing what a youth of a country could do. They started the movement in 2008 but were supressed but then encouraged by the Tunisian revolution, they gave it all to topple one of the most ruthless dictators.

We have all heard about the butterfly effect, here is an example...

"Twenty-six year old Mohamed Bouazizi had been the sole income earner in his extended family of eight. He operated a purportedly unlicensed vegetable cart for seven years in Sidi Bouzid 190 miles (300 km) south of Tunis. On 17 December 2010 a policewoman confiscated his cart and produce. Bouazizi, who had such an event happen to him before, tried to pay the 10-dinar fine (a day's wages, equivalent to 7USD). In response the policewoman slapped him, spat in his face, and insulted his deceased father. A humiliated Bouazizi then went to the provincial headquarters in an attempt to complain to local municipality officials. He was refused an audience. Without alerting his family, at 11:30 am and within an hour of the initial confrontation, Bouazizi returned to the headquarters, doused himself with a flammable liquid and set himself on fire. Public outrage quickly grew over the incident, leading to protests.^[41][42] This immolation and the subsequent heavy-handed response by the police to peaceful marchers caused riots the next day in Sidi Bouzid that went largely unnoticed, although social media sites such as Facebook and YouTube featured images of police dispersing youths who attacked shop windows and damaged cars. Bouazizi was subsequently transferred to a hospital near Tunis. In an attempt to quell the unrest President Zine el Abidine Ben Ali visited Bouazizi in hospital on 28 December 2010. Bouazizi died on 4 January 2011.^[43]"

^{Who would know an act like this would stir up revolutions in different parts of middle east....}

^{Come to think of it, if the lady officer hadnt confiscated Bouazizi's vegetable cart, Gaddafi would have continued to have his Bunga Bunga parties.}