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I don't see that as a problem, they have give him an opportunity and he is giving back that. I like it.

I would love to give him more chances to prove himself. He seems to be a real talent and in these times to have a real talent at home and not make use of it seems to me a wrong step to do. Let's pair him in the middlefield with any strong player with experience (that can have his back secured) and I'm sure he will be more confident and show what he is capable of. *Thinking on buying his shirt.

I'm seriously concern about the implode of Barcelona's team. If they lose with Bayern again and if they do so in the same way like the other day... Many players of the team will be kicked out and some of them will leave the team. Time for hunt?

Same here! To be honest part of your argument have more consistence than mine, in particular where Chelsea is better than Borussia actually. Anyway as always a pleasure to speak with a Finnish guy.

Again and again and again... How this is even possible? Is his priority to offend anyone that doesn't think like him?

I'm seriously thinking that this guy shouldn't be tolerated in this forum and if the other members see what he is doing all day long, I think they will take care of this issue. I've been seeing all his posts, and honestly, he doesn't stop to push the people. Santiago was a good forum user compared to him.

1 - Honestly... I will never think on my team being worst than other, I may accept that other team is in better form than my team, but I will never accept that we are just simply worst than them. In the other hand I do know that they are good and they have a good team, that doesn't change my mind that they were poor against Malaga, opening the window in my mind that we could beat them. (Without Torres on Starting XI). I might accept your point like a sir that they are better, but sometimes I really prefer to be a fucker and say, hell no! we are better than them. I also have to agree with you, that we are quite shit this year and we should to have the mind focused in creating a new team, because we have the tools, now we just need to make them work!. 2 - My point was based that German players play on Germany was more on a thing of the past, I do hope this is changing and will change in next years. Anyway if the same player have an offer from Bayern and Real Madrid, same amount of money on his wage, is normal that he would choose Bayern. Also is an strategy of Bayern, they play with the advantage of being able to seduce all the German players (as we just saw with Gotze). 3 - Was a simple example, I know that the guy has serious problems is well known from a long time ago, but I was trying to make the point with the quality/price. I seriously doubt that £20M for Schürrle is a fair price. We have to thing ahead if we play that price now, every single player will increase exponentially. Regarding the style of the player, that is not 100% sure for you, or for me. It would really depend on tactics and style of play. I'm a bit tired of getting players for huge money quantities that haven't proved enough to earn the respect of almost everyone and be a consensus (See Cavani, you can like it, you can't, but you know that he is pure goal - I don't like him but I have to recognize that). I do really hope that is not a failure, because we can not accept failures anymore, he £20M and gotze was around £30M for Bayern, I know... different players, different style but at the end, the money paid is not that big difference once you are handling these figures. Hyvaa Chelsea.

Hahah, Navas has serious issues with his personalty he is really shut-in. Agreed with Reus!

Over yours, always over yours.

Leave him, It doesn't have any sense, insulting and referring to the unemployment in Spain (we are in a Chelsea football forum) to offend people. Doesn't worth the time and the effort to make him see that he is doing it wrong.

What? Are you serious? Saying that is Racism? Are you MAD? Here is your blueprint: I referred Brazil as we were speaking about Neymar who is Brazilian and plays in Brazil. I used Brazil to make a comparison based on sarcasm referring to the not that good quality of the player. Next time that I'm speaking about a player from Brazil that plays in Brazil I will refer to another league and country as an example, just for you that you can't imagine shit, buddy. And wait, that is so offensive for you that you start to call me cunt and these shit that you think that would offend me and make me cry? or I just would turn off the computer? Oh my... non sense, not at all.

Nop, I had to leave Spain because I'm the owner of two successful companies and I have to be in the UK to continue growing, but many of my friends are. Should I be offended? If I had to leave my country to feed my family? Men, better leave it because at the very end you will receive Reports and not from myself, for another person who is working in a foreign country to be alive. By the way, from wikipedia (you should read it and quickly please!): Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis

You are not allowed to say that shit here in @Rmpr territory, go to punish yourself badly and be prepared to be insulted with no reason. Edit: Racist! that you are a Racist with your country-mates. Hahahah

1 - Nonsense take 2. 2 - I have access to everything that allows me my internet provider. You see... I would like to access to thepiratebay.se but it's blocked by the ISP provider (Speaking without any relation or whatsoever with the discussion, as you like it). 5 - Let's leave this clear: If I say "I could play in Arsenal, because the are shit", is Racism. Ok... let's go then with lesson two: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

1 - Nonsense. 2 - Wikipedia is the entry level, in this way is much much easier. 3 - Nice. 4 - Nice. 5 - Offensive and racist? Hahah, Sarcasm is now racist... Sure it was, look: Damn these fucking immigrants! oh wait... that I'm living in a different country were I was born.

1 - I just simply replied to you, if you don't want to take the point, leave it then. 2 - You should leave it, and then go to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm 3 - I have much more class, is not necessary, just cut the crap, and don't insult anyone that didn't insulted you. 4 - Yep, you have your opinion I have mine. Point taken. 5 - You don't allow me? I can give my opinion whenever I want and if you don't like it, just ignore me because I will do it again and again and now then in special to you

1 - Not as good, so Barcelona is not that good as any other Brazilian team. 2 - We are talking about money, now? Can you follow a simple discussion without any dispersion? 3 - You are reporting yourself in front of everyone. I haven't heard anyone in UK or Spain that have to offend to make their point, it could be normal in Brazil but I doubt it, so it may be just you. 4 - So all the South American team are better than the let me see.. Malaga, Bilbao, Valencia even Betis. 5 - Don't you allow me? So do you have the keys from this forum and you are the person who let speak to others. And you are talking about hypocrisy? aren't you? Try Harder, buddy, try harder.

1 - Libertadores and Copa do Brasil are not Champions League or Liga BBVA. The football played on them are much stronger and with much more contact so that could be quite difficult for him, not seeing the point if he is great there will be here. 2 - I'm not saying he is not promising but having for sure that he will be top class is just nuts. 3 - If you have felt offended, my apologies, but you are the first one to try to offense myself directly (Please refer to the forum rules), as I wasn't intent to offense your person with that comment. 4 - In my opinion they might be better than the half bottom of the Liga BBVA. 5 - If you are proud to be Brazilian and you like to glorify all the Brazilian players, good for you, but don't try to push your opinion to convince others because you don't have the right to.

So if he is good @ Santos and doing some skills, I have to believe that he would became top class player? Are you serious?

Where is the point? Where?!

You know what, this history is similar to me, oh wait that's correct, Robinho's history... I remember the first match with Real Madrid vs Cadiz a few summers ago, holy shit! Was pure dynamite bicycles, spins, roulettes... He still being DENCH or no! he is being BENCH. When he start to shine at any top class team in Europe, I'll start thinking on him.

Good for him, he deserve to have a good end of the season.

1- If they are so good, we didn't have any chance with bundesliga? Also to be known as a good team you have to win matches and titles, just to remember you they are at semi-finals because that lucky win vs Malaga, so CL is not something to be proud of. Now Are they so good because match VS Real Madrid? I think they are good but can not believe they are that good. 2- How many players does Germany have in Starting XI from Bayern, Borussia or playing in another country, and how many for other German team? Last starting XI (Has been almost the same in the last 5 games) http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/germany/ 3- He shouldn't be, as easy as he is not, and if we pay for him £20 M is stupid, there are plenty of players like him or better for less of the half. Jesus Navas if you want an example to look on.

1 - We are not worse than Dortmund, I may remember you that we are the actual Champions League winners. We are having a weird season that would be solved for the next one (Still being able to win Europa League, many many teams would kill to win it). 2 - They do leave Germany, the only stay in Germany if they are signed by the big team in Germany known as Bayern Munich. 3 - Players like Ozil, Kedhira and Holtby left Germany. 4 - Schürrle shouldn't be classified as Star. 5 - I don't mind, I want Reus and I want him NOW!.

That's the point, that if he is not leaving this year why we close doors? If we get Andre we are not selling him next year to get Reus.. and that sucks. Reus + Mata + Hazard