unclezillion

credit yes but blind loyalty no!

credit yes but blind loyalty no!

credit yes but blind loyalty no!

There are leaders and there are sheep! you my friend are firmly in the second category!

No one was banned for any PMs. Kojo's screen shots are posts that one of our previous members made on a different forum. Kojo was using those screen shots to prove his points about the member's character. It is Kojo's opinion and has nothing to do with the staff here.
The member in question was banned BEFORE those screen shots were made for making inappropriate posts about the Hillsborough disaster.
I hope this clears things up..

wow my friend ! completely irrational rhetoric here! Are your family from this part of the world by any chance? Whilst i agree with some of your sentiments about America setting itself up as the worlds moral force etc most of what you said is very emotional. The bay is gradually being taken care of: Obama is lined up against the whole redneck and extremely right wing American institutions but is getting there. You are at uni and what do you think would be your teachers reaction to your statements? They would tell you that they are far too emotional and selective to be taken seriously. Arguments, excluding football, must be reasoned and explained. Quetta, the Khyber pass, and other mountainous areas have been considered as bandit country for years and years even before any hijacking of Islam buy terrorists. Quetta for instance was the center for the heroin trade , whereas the khyber pass was where arms were made and or sold to all and sundry. I have friends who were there and fired surface to air missiles for a very small price!
Every tale has two sides and nothing will ever be resolved unless facts can be told dispassionately! There you go and I've no doubt these words will be shoved in my face on a regular basis here now

i think whoever said it is an idiot and i'll counter with

Try Russia 1818-21 under Lenin.
So we go from the working classes to the agrarian peasants in revolutionary terms but neither China nor Russia in all its modern guises is anywhere near Communism/Marxism because both systems worked opposite to what Marx was suggesting: according to Marx the state should be controlled from the bottom up instead of the state controlling from the top down. What we learn from both China and Russia despite similar theoretical identities is that the quest for and the holding onto power corrupts and becomes the main driving force behind subsequent propaganda! And the friggin man of steel (is what Stalin means his real name was Iosif Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili) was an asshole/murderer second to none including dear old Adolf! Can you imagine being at a venue listening to him speak and you were disappeared if you were the first one to stop clapping ?
The only real difference between Leninism and Stalinism on the surface was Marxism should have been a worldwide revolution (Lenin) rather than it being acceptable restricted to one country (Stalin)
Uncle specialized in Soviet politics and Marxism in a different lifetime lol why? it seemed like a good idea at the time!

I'm not familiar with this Pilger guy so I won't defend him but I would argue that all the US' 'problems', at least in the middle east are self-made. For example, it was the US who 'stirred up' the extremist anti-christian Muslims and helped bring back 'Al Jihad' in central Asia in the late 70s and early 80s to fight against the Soviet Union. They funded and armed all those, which they then called oppressed, including Ben Ladden. Needless to say that those extremest then turned into Al Qaeda and once they started fight the US they turned into terrorists.
Another example is Saddam who was turned into a force to be reckoned with in the middle east by the US. He was sold devastating weapons by the US to use them against Iran after the demise of the Shah. Iran, itself, is another example of what I'm taking about. The ambassadors of democracy supported the biggest tyrant in the region in that time. Iran in the era of the Shah had more weapons than Israel, all from the US of course. When the oppressed people had enough, they rose against the tyrant and those who supported him.
You say that societies should 'move on' as if the US screwing your country and killing your people is as inevitable as a natural disaster that hits third world countries, they should all just accept that it is bound to happen to them and move on in hope that they somehow stop being a third world country so that it doesn't happen to them again!

Haha! Never mind, mate! Now that you know it, lets grab a pint.

Mother Theresa should be granted them least of all. Gandhi was a man of his time and I think it's difficult to judge people based on current mores. Lincoln was a great man but by today standards would be considered a racist. Churchill was a great man for standing up to the Nazis and leading Britain through the war, but by today's standards, he was a war criminal. Gandhi was still a great man, but, like all men, he was flawed. Mother Teresa was a media creation. Tariq Ali and Christopher Hitchens have a good documentary about this called Hell's Angel (available on youtube) but there are plenty of other very legitimate criticisms of her. She has somehow acquired this image as the default perfect person.

Kebab is not the problem but diarrhea producing kebab on an industrial scale is lol.

or they don't fancy kebab for breakfast, lunch and dinner

The Turks are crazy when Chelsea were out there a few years ago they sang outside the team hotel all night lol. When Chelsea go there they even take all their own food because they cannot be trusted