Well, Actually it is the other way around. Some of us feel it is unjust to criticize a guy because of the 'publicity' or exposure he gets on a forum, instead of his performances. (Henrique even voted him motm lst game if I recall correctly.) Illustrations for my point being following citations: Response citation from me: Response citation from others: Response citation From Henrique: And then this comes along, completely besides the point of discussion: Now, besides blowing hot and cold a the same time in this post multiple times: what IS the valid point at hand here Henrique seems to have? That is is OK to criticize a player because he has a lot of fans posting? Because they post here more than in the Mata thread? I never said anything about him performing superb, nor have other belgian posters after his statement. What we do have in common (and if you scroll back you will see there as many other nationalities posting than Belgians when I say we) is that an argument has to have some validity, some real content. What happened was just one big troll as far as I am concerned, designed to rally up everyone on the Hazard subject and actually divide the fans. Calling people names (idiot for example and shouting to get of this forum because you thro a tantrum) and shifting the subject of a the topic is just an immunization strategy to get a grip on this debate without providing actual, factual arguments. I'm out for now. As I promised the mods, but the truth has its rights, hence the clarification.