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Also public apologies from my part, tribe members!

So sarcasm only goes from you to me and not the other way around? See how easy it is ? Thats why it is wrong. Quod erat demonstrandum.

Wrong copy pasta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder This being my point. And I am out! Bye bye.

Histrionic personality disorder Look it up.

I already did that remember .... you were going to get back to me but never did.

Stop it Leif. Really. You were dissing people that went to school actually in that thread. Don't feel so threatened by me.

I do know. You just feel defensive because I pointed out facts about the dangers of stigmatising others. Enough said. I know what kind of people cannot take feedback - so I don't feel attacked actually by you. Live long and prosper.

You talked about dropping out of school and bragged about it in the pub dude. don't make me quote it. So no I am not an asshole on that matter. If you feel touchy about that, maybe there is some frustration on the subject you are not ready to admit to?

Fair enough. Is it amplified emotions doing the sarcastic slating of me as well? I can give you some anger management if you like :-)

If there is a reason I am not there it is because I have a business to attend to and cannot cancel my contracts in that short notice. I also have a family and wife that has a full time job. So, yes you are a bit of an A*hole to 'sarcastically' say that, Leif.

Dude. You miss the entire point. I was talking about the NEED to slate members that are not your 'tribe'. That is ingroup/outgroup psychology. That is what is dangerous and short sighted. My argument was all about the fact that there is no need to glorify that. Ffs, you could just as easily make a case for racism - which in fact you did a bit if you are consistent in your argument there. sigh.

What are you, 12?

You did Leif. Rhis is why I reacted, also because you slated Backstreet, which I found a little unneeded. Thats all. Don't spindoctor out of it now.

A conversation would be an overstatement for the exchange of sounds such an encounter would produce. I will happily decline the invitation.

If you like cheap shots .... think twice.

Sigh. you have no idea how uneducated that sounds do you? I feel a little sorry for you now. You should have gone to school longer. Go watch The Experiment - the wave and look up the Harvard Prisoners experiment. Then go watch youtube videos of the Getto of Warchau and see the footage of concentration camps being liberated. Then realize what an unauthentic group creature you can be/are when you say shit like that. It is dangerous, Lif - not something to be proud of - also not those moronic gang bangers you refer to (I saw a gang shooting once - you would pee your pants dude. Nothing, NOTHING honorable or wise about it). So , don't glorify it in footie as such. especially don't hate others that can love a beautiful goal, even scored by an opponent.

Personally I don't think thats true. But I guess a good old hostile tribal mentality is a necessity to be 'tha real deal' for chelsea, Leif? In the 1930's there was another group really good at that sort of ingroup outgroup stigmatisms. Check it out sometimes.

I know mate. It wasn't a jab at anyone - especially not you. I know we are all delighted with him I just don't agree with some of the claims on here. thats all amigo. I see his finishing as really good actually, as I do his composure. What he lacks to be truly consistent is age - and not some other attribute. That was the point of my whole post. Somehow people confuse inconsistency caused by age with a lack of attributes. I do not get that nor do I agree. Thats all.

No! They are saying he is an average finisher. I have all the facts highlighted above. Check again. I hate groupthink.

Well, I agree he misses once in a while :-) Who doesn't. But still I think it is a bias to say or believe he is bad at finishing. Last season he scored 20 goals in 38 games. That is pretty good finishing for a 20 year old attacking midfielder in my book - not average. I think it IS a bias claiming such things in ones first year EPL. You can attribute some of the poor finishes on this fact and on the fact he still had to adapt - attributing it to his lack of finishing is being short-sighted. Lets compare to a slightly younger Falcao 2006-07 CA River Plate Primera A 25 7 2007-08 CA River Plate Primera A 39 19 2008-09 CA River Plate Primera A 35 16 He actually did worse than Hazard three seasons in a row but we endow him on this forum with god like finishing. So, your argument fails I fear. To take it further check cavani, another God of finishing: 2007-2008: 33 - 5 2008-2009: 35 - 14 2009-2010: 34 - 13 So also here - Hazard is better, even as a AM. The problem is you are comparing strikers ( or a 9) in their prime with someone that is just starting .... there is no excuse for that in science, there shouldn't be here. Plus, add the assists and you have one pretty awesome player that is not Messi, Ronaldo or any other. He really is just Hazard - with his own very individual skill set. Fuck sake. Be happy we have him, appreciate it instead of debating how many angels fit on on the tip of a needle.

I think the observation he is average at finishing is just groupthink from this forum. How many goals did he score in his first season again? And how many did CR7 and Messi score in their first season/at that age? We really are so fast to judge. And I said that even in July.

Ok Nostradamus. Let's talk in a few years time :-)

Well. Ive seen Fellaini play countless times. This way, way, way too harsh. He may or may not fit into our system (we are biased about his passing because of his big body - and hair) but he is much more than what you make him out to be tbh. Id take him over Ramires even - whos technical abilities and passing aren't that super duper awesome to say the least. The thing that all belgians fear in him is instead his lack of tracking sometimes and his nonchalance..... If we want an absolute beast and a running metronome marathon man WITH the passing abilit that always deliversy, it is Witsel plain and simple. He is the missing piece in our puzzle and I believe Mourinho knows it as well. Get him in plzzzzzzzzzzzz Roman!

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