Chelsea Legend 11
MemberEverything posted by Chelsea Legend 11
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When you come to grips with the fact the marketplace isn't static and that availability dictates a players worth you will have a clue. Modric is not the same type of player as Pogba. Why is this so hard for people to comprehend? Pogba is not worth 50m but Juve don't have to sell so that drives up his price! I'll put it to you as well, if I told you we could swap Luiz for Pogba with no financial loss for the club would you do it? The money doesn't matter we're in the black by a fair margin
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I heard £48m for Luiz. But like I said, if you could swap Luiz for Pogba would you do it?
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its 50M not 65m and if I told you we could swap Luiz for Pogba what would you say?
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Gundogan is not as good as Pogba... not even close.
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I want both and its attainable but no need to rush these kids.
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Not just limited to this chap but also those who think we can take any player who plays in the midfield into a deep lying midfielder of a Jose Mourinho side. Rakitic, Cuadrado, Gundogan, Kroos all names of players I've heard who carry skill but don't fulfill the Jose philosophy of defense leading to offense.
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LOL Find me one that is as good as Pogba and fits into Jose's philosophy. Paulinho?
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€65m is a lot of dough if we couldn't afford it. Juve don't have to sell him so we have to make an offer they can't refuse and it just so happens that since Luiz was moved because an-offer-was-made-that-we-couldn't-refuse, it put us in a position to offer similar stupid cash for a player we desperately need. If I told you we could straight up swap Luiz of Pogba what would you say???
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But they really don't do it consistently do they?
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I'm still waiting for you to tell me the name of one player world class or otherwise that can produce consistent A level football week in week out. The fact that Pogba is producing world class football at 21 even if its sporadic is a good thing! His best years are ahead of him.
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They need a few successful loan spells before we can sell them.
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At some point we have to see these guys make it into the squad though. I just don't think we should avoid buying a potentially world class midfielder because we have a few decent looking youngsters. If they're good enough they will play, Jose doesn't hold a bias, whoever is best will play.
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Don't believe the papers dude, if they were even close to accurate we'd have Cavani, Falcao, Modric, Lewdandowski and Costa by now.
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I know what he's envisioned as but I don't think the sort of player who doesn't have any defensive acumen is the type of player Jose would play next to Matic. In my mind the way we set out is more akin to a pack of wolves hawking after the ball as a unit, if you don't know how to do that you won't play. The team I see is more about power and pace, Rakitic ticks the box in terms of how Chelsea supporters would like to see the team play but I don't see Jose paying a big fee for a player who only plays one way. Pogba is more a Jose player, box to box, picks a pass, wins tackles, composed on the ball.
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Insane indeed but on par with Bale at 86 and Shaw at 30. Ever changing marketplace. I have no idea what Pogba's true value is, what I do know is Juve don't have to sell and we just got a kitty that is similar to winning the lottery. Hedging bets is obviously not the right terminology to describe gambling a windfall on potentially the next Yaya but what I will say is £50m for Pogba won't make me flinch... Only because we were wowed by the Luiz deal.
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Can't say for sure.
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Rakitic? how much do you think he will cost? does he put in a tackle? have the ability to win the ball back? Doesn't strike me as a Jose type player.
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this transfer kitty is play money. No one thought we'd sell Luiz let alone for that much... We have the opportunity to make a luxury buy who potentially can make us the most complete teams in the world(with a striker of course) These types of players, if they ever become available, don't come cheap! Its a rare opportunity to grow the club, we don't have to worry about money just the right players. There aren't many players in the world that can do the job Pogba is capable of... In my mind substituting Pogba of Luiz dollar for dollar is a no brainer. PSG put us in a position where the money we pay for Pogba doesn't really matter, he won't be on crazy wages....
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Gundogan... Now there's an overrated midfielder if I've every heard of one. Soon to be 30 Bastien and 29 yr old Luka. Pogba is right there with those names if you ask me.
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Subjective. I think he's very close. Who are the players who you think classify as 'world class' in his position? Vidal, Yaya and?
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Who are the world class midfielders? Yaya Toure? I'd say Pogba is closest thing to Yaya in world football and is VERY close to world class. How much would you pay for a 22/23 yr old Yaya Toure?
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I think for some the tag world class comes only with longevity, when I watch Pogba I judge him on what I see now. He is without a doubt burgeoning on world class and we would be dumb not to take advantage of the crazy money we acquired for Luiz and not take it to reinvest on a player who looks like the second coming of the most influential player in the Prem.
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everyone has their opinions. I believe Pogba is worth 50M only because we got that amount for Luiz. Had we not sold Luiz for that I wouldn't go anywhere near 50M. He is burgeoning world class, no doubt about it.
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What you people continually FAIL to understand is the marketplace is not static! Suarez will cost more than Bale's 86m in today's market! When you buy a player like Pogba for 50m you're buying him for that because he's capable of giving you TWO contracts! Cavani will give you one contract and will demand RIDICULOUS WAGES!! Eden Hazard had a buyout and is on RIDICULOUS WAGES!!
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EXACTLY!