Jase

It is probably just banter. Havertz is hardly the first player to like such things or similar things on social. And it is no worse than when players publicly talk about moving elsewhere in the media, like Hazard did. And what Twitter crap are you talking about?

Of course but just because one club lie, it does not mean another will lie too. If it was a lie, why were there so many stories about Klopp talking with Werner about a transfer to Liverpool - and they apparently talked multiple times? Heck, Werner even flirted with Liverpool publicly a la Hazard a few times earlier this year. There is also enough evidence or stories to suggest Liverpool really have their hands tied with their finances because of this pandemic. Plus, (I have countered this in the past but am now bringing this up lol) Liverpool have tended to spend only when they are able to sell someone for big money. But they can't this summer and with the financial constraints, they need to tighten their purse strings.

It is fine you want to be cautious and wait and see. That is fair but I do not think anyone has gone overboard with the reaction till the point expectations need to be tampered. People are just happy, especially when you consider (a) we have not even qualified for Champions League yet, (b) we are living in a shitty world right now with the pandemic supposedly affecting club's finances but we are not, (c) we have spent years buying some real duds and (d) Werner - and even Ziyech - have proven themselves and improved themselves year in year out. The stats back that up. Obviously they will need to prove their quality with us, in the Premier League and all that but again, I do not think anyone has gone overboard with their reaction. Also...LET PEOPLE BE HAPPY A BIT IN THIS SHITTY TIMES!

If you have evidence to prove otherwise, do share it because there have been several stories explaining Liverpool's financial constraints during this pandemic. Below is one. https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/why-liverpool-pulled-the-plug-on-54m-werner-as-chelsea/a1yjdfhc6i4e1rbor3o1xqytu Plus, let's not forget that their owners also own a Major League Baseball team. So they would have to be even more careful about their finances.

It's 2020 and I don't know how Ian McGarry is still relevant. Never or RARELY gets anything right. I supposed there is a reason why his quotes appear in places like Daily Express...

Not sure how much I believe that because it's suddenly mentioned by a random German journalist on BBC when more reliable sources haven't mentioned it. And if we start including agent fees, then every transfer fee would be a lot higher than what is commonly reported.

Well... It would be stupid for Arsenal to retain Luiz anyway. Think he costs them something like 24 million in wages etc per year and on top of that, he is a liability and simply not what a club who are trying to rebuild themselves need.

Understandable reaction from them but this isn't a simple black and white situation, TBF. Would like to think Werner didn't make this decision lightly either because he's practically thrown away the chance to win the Champions League when clubs only need 3 wins to do so in the revised format. Plus, we are also facing pretty much a very similar situation with Pedro and Willian anyway.

But Liverpool couldn't pay the fee because of the financial constraints. As Klopp said, how would Liverpool explain to their staff and players that they spend 50-60 million on a player, after furloughing them and asking them as well as the players to take a pay cut etc? Am sure if this pandemic hadn't happened, Werner would have been a Liverpool player by now but since this pandemic unfortunately happened, it presented us with the opportunity to get him and we took it.

Just because Arsenal fans said so, it doesn't mean it is TBH. If anything, it is delusional to consider spending 70 million on a player to be a bargain. Liverpool spent that amount on Van Dijk and he has done well for them but no one is calling him a bargain because spending that amount on someone is just out of the norm, even if the transfer market is busted these days. You are either a total success or a flop if you spend that kind of money on someone. Different case altogether if you spend less than 50 million on players who have actually proven themselves consistently beyond one season. The Premier League will be a different league than what Werner is used to in the Bundesliga or Ziyech in the Eredivisie but at least they have some track record. Pepe had only 1-2 good seasons.

Is that writer a Liverpool fan? There seems to be a few negative spin to things in the article...

https://worldsoccertalk.com/2020/06/18/werner-turned-down-champions-league-quarter-finals-chance-say-leipzig/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Leipzig confirm it was Werner's decision to not play in the CL quarter finals because he wants to prepare and settle in for the new season with us.

Exactly and *touch wood, fingers crossed*, having a 35 million or a 45 million failure is not as bad as having a 70 million flop. I mean, some of us are already saying that about Kepa...

Aston Villa v Chelsea - Sunday 21 June - 4.15pm - live on Sky Sports Chelsea v Manchester City - Thursday 25 June - 8.15pm - live on BT Sport Leicester City v Chelsea (FA Cup) - Sunday 28 June - 4pm - live on BT Sport West Ham United v Chelsea - Wednesday 1 July - 8.15pm - live on Sky Sports Chelsea v Watford – Saturday 4 July - 8pm - live on Sky Sports Crystal Palace v Chelsea – Tuesday 7 July - 6pm - live on Sky Sports Sheffield United v Chelsea – Saturday 11 July - 5.30pm - live on Sky Sports

Yeah, that was in a normal season. Imagine next season...especially with games being a lot more intense etc than back then.

Also read somewhere that Hansi Flick wanted him too but the bridge had been burned by then. Oh well, too bad for those bullies!

It's also less (or thereabouts) than what Arsenal paid for Pepe and Luiz. Also, weren't there people OKAY with paying something like 80 million for Zaha previously? We have now signed 2 better players for around that money.

I have nothing against Havertz but I just don't think we will sign him. So, sorry @killer1257...