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From the fans' perspective, think the annoyance is coming from the fact that we have played a player out of position instead of using the one and only wide player we have now in CHO. If he cannot even get opportunities now to show his worth with Pulisic and Ziyech out, how many will he get when both are back? On top of that, you have noises coming out of CHO's camp that he may leave while Lampard is seemingly leaving the door open for him to do so.

I hope to be proven wrong down the line but I have the feeling that Lampard doesn't quite know what he wants and does not want based on the constant flip flopping seen over the last 14 months or so.

Of course and every player should be expected to train properly in training but Lampard seems to emphasize that a lot till the point it feels like he's picking the players solely on that. Obviously he considers other factors as well but it just feels like he reads too much into the training stuff.

Oh, it would be so interesting to see the contrasting reactions if we have Sarri in Lampard's place right now...

Given how often Lampard has emphasized that player needs to work hard, train hard and all that in training, it would have been interesting if he was managing Hazard now considering Hazard is not one to take training seriously.

Lampard's "work hard, train hard" = Conte's "we must be prepared to suffer"

It will be interesting to see how this situation develops over the next 2 weeks, especially after Sarri got so much stick for almost forcing CHO out...

Lampard acknowledged the squad is too big right now and will have to be cut down. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/sep/22/hudson-odoi-and-rudigers-future-in-doubt-as-chelsea-reduce-squad-frank-lampard

I think there was an element of pressure. He basically went full Mourinho and prioritized results over anything else. Circumstances are not favorable right now but for our long term sake, hope to see some semblance of a plan, a coherent idea coming together in the coming weeks, months. We can't be going back to the kind of football we saw under Mourinho.

Lampard did not rule out Rudiger leaving in this window... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/09/22/could-antonio-rudiger-callum-hudson-odoi-leave-chelsea-remains/

Lampard on whether CHO could leave in this transfer window... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/09/22/could-antonio-rudiger-callum-hudson-odoi-leave-chelsea-remains/

You think Boris Johnson has done a decent job?

At the risk of provoking some people, do you think we are heading in the direction based on the football that Lampard has tried to implement over the last 13-14 months or so? Do you see a coherent idea coming into place?

I don't get your reaction. You don't think the government's handling of the pandemic has been abysmal?

Yeah. Despite the boring football, there was a structure to how we play out from the back, how we beat the press etc. IIRC, the sequence which led to Kante's goal against Man City at home under Sarri was also another example of working around the press.

This feels like such a narrow-minded view on how to beat pressing, especially when you have been drumming it so often. Having ball carriers or players who can dribble past players is one way but it is not the only way. You can beat it through 1 touch football (see Hazard's goal vs Liverpool at home in 2018) or play long balls to a target man (definitely not Havertz!) and build the play from there or play balls in behind the defence for players to run into. Obviously, it is not easy to beat teams that press and press well but there are different ways to do so. If we keep on thinking that dribbling past players is the only way to beat the press, then we are truly fucked.

Oh dear...

This could blow up...

What's funny about that?

Regardless, we are gonna need a new keeper next summer. Whether it'll be a main keeper or a backup keeper will depend on the success of Mendy. Kepa will likely be sold sooner or later and Caballero will be let go.

WAIT TILL THE MOVE IS OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED BY THE CLUB!