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You're being very optimistic...

You're casting a wide net there when you say "this month". lol Do I think Werner should start every game? Definitely no and maybe benching him for 2-3 consecutive games or longer will do him some good. What I'd say though - and I've said this before - is that Werner hasn't always occupied that left forward position considering he has played upfront a few times and even once on the right. So, nothing has really stopped Tuchel from playing Pulisic or CHO, especially with everyone available now. On top of that, I think we'll be playing a game every 3-4 days now until the end of the season. So, Tuchel will definitely rotate more and not even sure if anyone will get a consistent run. At most, I think one will play 3 consecutive games before being rested. TBH, we have been doing this a lot and I can argue till the cows come home with you or anyone else but at the end of the day, Tuchel is the one picking the team. Have already argued to the point where I'm just tired and can't be bothered about anything anymore. 😖

Maybe the others could have a more positive effect in the team but similarly, they have also only shown flashes of brilliance. Why Tuchel isn't playing Player A, B, C, I don't know. That's on him to answer. I didn't say he contributed 4 goals in those 11 starts but contributed in 4 of those games out of the 11 starts and IIRC, only Mount has contributed more than him under Tuchel. And some has also featured more than others under Tuchel because of injuries, just like I fucking said! Yes, that particular moment was shit but how long are you gonna hang it over his head? And I just said maybe he'll start against City. Never said he will definitely start against them. Enough has been said about him missing chances and don't think I need to say anything further. As for him making runs, let's not act like he doesn't make them. He always makes them and he's always ready make them but nobody in midfield, for example, would play an early pass to pick him out when there's a chance to. Put Fabregas in this team and I believe our attackers, not just Werner, would be making more impact in the final third. Heck, you only have to look at what Modric and Kroos did in that Madrid midfield against Liverpool and see what Jorginho and Kovacic do. It's so night and day.

Okay...the point I was trying to make is not "no one is putting in good performances to bench Werner". It is that no one is actually doing that consistently, even Werner himself. Everyone of our attackers has done good here and there or shown flashes here and there. Because of that, it's come down to Tuchel choosing what he sees best for the game, opposition etc instead of "right, he must play because he has been consistent". That's the point I was trying make. Whether Tuchel has made the right selection or not is another debate.

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We had two good team performances against Everton and Atletico recently and those were without Mount. Not saying Mount is bad but am not subscribing to the idea that we can't make do without him because he's not at that level...yet maybe.

Tuchel came in at the end of January. Werner has been a hindrance for a while? Have people forgotten that the second leg against Atletico only happened like 2 weeks ago or so aka 3 games ago, where he actually did well, where it was actually one of our better performances under Tuchel overall? And it was only this time last month that he also did well at Liverpool and would have had a goal too if it wasn't for the stupid offside. He's started 11 games out of 16 under Tuchel and has contributed goals in 4 of them while also doing decently overall in some of the other games. The performances haven't been consistent but they have been there. Plus, I've also said this a thousand times and people seem to be blind towards, another reason why perhaps Werner has played a lot under Tuchel and even Lampard is that Pulisic was in a bad form and had his injury problems. It's the same case with Ziyech and even Havertz. So, it's not exactly his fault if he's being used while others have been out, is it? I agree about maybe dropping him because at times, it looks like he's hit a wall after having played so many minutes in what has been a difficult first season in English football but on the other hand, with the amount of games, with the amount of rotation needed, how long can you really keep him out for? I suspect he won't start/play at Palace but will likely do so against Porto and maybe City next week. This is exactly what I meant in the other thread about our attacking players showing flashes of brilliance or contribution but none has been consistently at it. Are we also gonna pretend that this is all Werner's fault? Tuchel has tried so many front 3 combinations since he's been here - some without Werner - and they have not done well in consecutive games, it's just 1 game here and 1 game there.

The one good thing from this win and a 2-0 win is that our game plan next week should be clear - play on the counter like we did against Atletico instead of trying to getting caught in the fire with Porto like today. Although, Porto will have Oliveira and Taremi back for the second leg.

Have you not been reading my posts on Werner lately? 🤣

Am just suggesting it if things get worse. The bold part is debatable.

Not defending Werner here but who else has performed so outstandingly that they deserve to be in the XI week in week out? If we want to talk about what each player can do, then we know what Werner can do at his best, we know what Pulisic can do at his best, we know what Ziyech can do at his best and the list goes on. But who exactly right now is even performing to their best of abilities if we're being honest? Some will maybe have 1-2 good games, some will show flashes here and there. That's it. No one is showing the "I SHOULD BE IN THE XI EVERY WEEK" performance.

GOD, PLEASE NO! AM TOO TIRED/LAZY TO GO AROUND IN CIRCLES AGAIN! If we break it down a bit, Werner made an impact in terms of goal contribution early in Tuchel's tenure. So it was normal if he was starting back then and you have Tuchel selecting him for specific games/opponents (e.g. Liverpool at Anfield and Atletico in the second leg), which worked out well. And then you have some games where he didn't play/start. It's also not like the others have been done so great that they deserve to be in the XI every game. Plus with us playing almost every 3-4 days, there's always gonna be rotation. Maybe Tuchel rotates a bit too much from game to game but he was always gonna rotate anyway.

If we are talking specifically about tonight's game, it was shit overall from the team going forward, if we're being honest. Easy to say Werner and Havertz were shit when the service they got was rubbish. Even Mount, despite scoring, didn't do anything of note. On top of that, nothing really changed even after Giroud and Pulisic came on. The few times we got it right attacking wise, we saw Mount score, Werner send his header just over and then Pulisic hit the post.

Take the win and run.

The problem with Giroud is that if he doesn't score, he offers nothing. He has no pace, no mobility, his link-up play is average at best. And given Tuchel's style of pressing and counter pressing, it just doesn't suit Giroud at all. As for Abraham, I don't what are the reasons to be exact but we all have had our discussions over him. Maybe Tuchel doesn't rate him for the same reasons that many of us don't. 🤷‍♂️

The 2 subs haven't helped changed the flow of the game. And now Tuchel seems to be going defensive with more changes...

Why does he need to prove a point? It's not like the club haven't been trying to sign Haaland or some ST.

I believe this is Giroud's first ever appearance in the Champions League quarter finals.

Is it just me or has the referee given Porto every single decision!?

How ironic that we and PSG have scored with our shots in the game. We had 1 shot and PSG had 2 shots.

The service has also been shit. The Mount goal was the only time someone made a decent pass.

They are so fucking allergic to playing balls over the top. Look up, THERE ARE RUNNERS UPFRONT! THERE IS SPACE!!

You see what Kroos and Modric did yesterday in midfield and you see what Jorginho and Kovacic do in midfield. Night and day.

IF I'm not mistaken, only 2 players in that starting XI have played in a Champions League quarter-final previously - Azpi and Kovacic.