Jase

These media organizations are really hypocrites. They decided to take the moral high ground by boycotting social media when they have contributed to the online abuse for years.

At this point, I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the polarizing views that Werner gets. I mean, fair enough that he gets criticized for the misses. However on one hand, you have people who focus only on the misses and abuse him for it but on the other hand, you have people who look beyond the numbers, who can see the other things that he offers to the team. It's all very amusing. Fair enough to say that he needs to be more clinical and do better next season but think the point is the initial period of adaptation. Playing for Chelsea is a completely different thing to playing for Stuttgart or even RB Leipzig.

Chelsea: Mendy; Christensen, Thiago Silva (c), Zouma; James, Gilmour, Mount, Chilwell; Ziyech, Havertz, Werner. Subs: Kepa, Alonso, Azpilicueta, Jorginho, Kante, Anjorin, Hudson-Odoi, Pulisic, Abraham.

Manchester City 1-2 Chelsea PRE/POST-MATCH DISCUSSION, LIVE CHAT AND ANALYSIS 2020/21 Premier League Match 35 8th May, Saturday 2021 Etihad Stadium 17:30 Kick Off (UK time)

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Not sure how wise it is to play on the counter when the score is 1-1, at least from a psychological point of view.

Maybe I am exaggerating this but I'd say Pulisic has already done more for us in the Champions League than Hazard did in during his time here.

If people still want Giroud to start, then I don't think they understand what Tuchel wants from the attacking players at this point. Giroud, unfortunately, just don't have the pace, energy level etc for Tuchel's approach to work. As for Abraham, yes, you could argue that he could have been used more but TBF, (a) Abraham had that ankle injury, (b) Werner hasn't always played as the #9 in Abraham's absence because Havertz and to a certain extent Giroud have played as the #9. In any case, below is a breakdown of Abraham's usage with and without Werner in the starting XI: WITH WERNER IN STARTING XI W 2-0 Burnley * W 1-0 Spurs **** W 2-1 Sheffield United **** W 2-0 Newcastle * D 1-1 Saints * W 1-0 Liverpool ** W 2-0 Everton ** L 2-5 West Brom ** W 1-0 West Ham *** W 1-0 Man City **** W 1-0 Atletico **** W 2-0 Atletico ** W 2-0 Porto **** D 1-1 Real Madrid **** WITHOUT WERNER IN STARTING XI D 0-0 Wolves *** D 0-0 Man United ** D 0-0 Leeds ** W 1-4 Crystal Palace **** D 0-0 Brighton **** W 1-0 Barnsley * W 2-0 Sheffield United ** L 0-1 Porto **** * Started ** Injured *** Came on as a sub **** Unused sub/Not in squad

City doing all of this pretty much without a striker. Makes you wonder...

He is 22. Turns 23 later this year.

Merely asking questions because there's also someone like Wout Weghorst scoring goals in the Bundesliga for Wolfsburg but has not been linked to any big side.

Am just naming names because Lukaku has been mentioned and the club are reportedly targeting him. It's either him or Haaland supposedly. If you're going to suggest Bamford, we might as well just keep Abraham. It's one thing to score for Leeds, it's another to score for Chelsea. Plus, it's also only his first season in the Premier League. Can he do it consistently?

Here's the tricky thing, how many of us thought the same with Werner last year? Are we sure that Silva will be a guaranteed success? Because I could also point out Werner's numbers over the last few years.

Am not that crazy...Jesus fucking christ... I simply meant others because if we want a new ST, then it should be a clear upgrade. Killer made it seem like every Tom, Dick and Harry strikers out there have good movement and score lots of goals. If that was really the case, then the top strikers available wouldn't be only Haaland, Lukaku, Kane etc.

Have been asking this, if it's not Haaland, Lukaku or even Kane, who can we realistically get?

So, Tuchel played Azpi at RWB for tactical reasons against West Ham and Real Madrid but ended up subbing him off in the second half of each game (probably more down to tiredness than anything).

Confidence isn't exactly like a tap water where you can just switch it on or off, is it? Right now, he needs goals without the missing chances bit in between to screw him up and/or have a Lady Luck smiling over him or something like with Iheanacho at the moment. Had a conversation with someone elsewhere and that person was talking about his goals against Southampton earlier this season. That was an example of what Werner could do at his confident best. Doubt the current Werner would have been able to score those goals now.

It's unlikely to happen and it would be a blow to his confidence but I'm kinda hoping that he doesn't get picked for the Euros. Let him reset and have a proper pre-season to work on his finishing, technically and even psychologically.

Am surprised you jumped the gun considering it was Werner.

Yet, how many are actually in top class bracket of strikers in terms of overall package though? And I don't think anyone is saying that we shouldn't go get another striker this summer anyway.

For the record, that isn't to say that we should play Werner in every game but just pointing it out since Azul mentioned it.

This isn't to say that Werner contributed to every goal whenever he's played but here's our record this season whenever he doesn't start/play: Under Lampard W 6-0 Barnsley W 4-0 Sevilla D 1-1 Krasnodar D 1-1 Villa W 1-0 Fulham L 0-2 Leicester Under Tuchel D 0-0 Wolves W 1-0 Barnsley D 0-0 Man United D 0-0 Leeds W 2-0 Sheffield United W 4-1 Crystal Palace L 0-1 Porto D 0-0 Brighton

On one hand, it was a bad miss and he should have scored and on the other hand, it was a good save. Players miss chances all the time, even in big games. The only reason the furore with Werner exists is because of the number of chances he has missed this season. What other chances to score? His miss and Pulisic's goal were the only real chances we had. I wasn't keeping track of it but saw some point out that had Werner scored his chance, the Pulisic goal might not have happened due to the same sequence of play etc. Will need to go see it again. But that aside, we ruined a lot of promising situations in the first half with poor final passes and in the second half, we created nothing. Can't remember us testing Courtois at all. There's still another 90 minutes to play. If we get knocked out by Real Madrid, it could be for various reasons. All the talk about Werner's miss and no one has even mentioned about the poor defending that led to Benzema's goal, for example. We should be doing better in attack to render such moments insignificant.

Probably because he was knackered.