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So you are "mata FC"

"mata FC" vs "mourinho FC" Let's get ready to rumble (Michael buffer voice)

I told my Arsenal supporting boss someone claimed Oscar runs the game better and a superior no 10 to mata. He pissed himself laughing for a good 4 minutes. I will be in his good books now until that joke wears thin on him.

before Torres, there was Heskey. I was only paying tribute to the pioneer that paved the way for players like Torres http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8R_Yg-b8WY

in fairness heskey was more "hardworking" and "physically dominant" therefore he would have "fit into the system" better than any of the legendary strikers including Van basten,pele,Eusebio,Puskas et al. iz all about ze system. Not to mention he was the striker who invented this one of a kind trademark stepover http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcybWhYg0jI&feature=player_detailpage can you see any other striker pulling that off.

You mean we have actually won trophies since mata joined. I was told he's the reason for our failure and downfall over the past 2 seasons. I'm not sure who to believe. I think I will go with the "experts"

And Heskey is superior to Ronaldo lima and batistuta put together

And in my opinion ali dia is superior to maradona and I'm richer than Carlos slim. since you want to base your arguments on opinion rather than facts, statistics and sound reasoning. So everyone, join me and feel free to make as many outlandish claims and argument as you want as long as you qualify it with "in my opinion".

False. In Barcelona, Xavi/Toure then later Xavi/Busquets have been their central midfielders with iniesta usually played further up the pitch either in a free role behind the striker or on the left wing where he played through out last season and many games under pep And in the spanish national team, it's very similar as again their central midfield mainly consist of Xavi/Busquets and Alonso (in euro 2008 it was Xavi,Alonso and senna). stop presenting bullshit as fact. just because iniesta drops deep very often during games doesn't mean he plays in central midfield and is a midfielder.

So Iniesta is a central midfielder and Silva is a winger now?. sigh let me indulge you, even if these players aren't no 10's according to you, how does it make oscar a superior playmaker to mata. In terms of statistics and eye test (because some people actually have eyes and can tell who creates more and orchestrate play better) mata completely shits on oscar so I would like to know the criteria you are using. is it just based on your personal opinion or some next level matrix.

This is the first time that I have ever being genuinely lost for words on this forum. if you truly believe that then there's no point in debating, that's how outlandish your assertion is. And I'm willing to bet, no one without an agenda or blue tinted glasses would agree with you on that. be it on internet forum, in the media and from neutrals point of view. the most any one would say is that he's more well rounded and fits jose's style better . mata is widely regarded as one of the top 4 no 10's in Europe. the others being Iniesta, Silva and Ozil. I have never seen Oscar's name pop up in such discussions before.

I was with you until the bolded bit. I'm sorry but what. Based on what exactly? I have never seen or heard anyone make such remark before. even those in support of oscar over mata have always admitted that mata is the superior no 10 but that oscar suits jose's style better. being superior and suiting a certain style better are two completely different things entirely.

It's still amazing how quickly people turned on him and change their opinion from last season. it was so quick, it left the speed of sound for dead and had the speed of light trailing by a couple of thousand miles per second.

That's one of the reasons I have stopped taking the mata thread seriously. people will have you believe he's the Spanish charlie adam with the disrespectful tone they write about him now that he's no longer a starter. And the sad thing is that, there would be some Chelsea fans who would actually support the insane mata for adnan swap.

Don't worry He won't fit into the United system either according to experts on this forum. so he had just be a £37m flop for them. nothing to worry about if he joins manure.

I'm stealing that line and will start using it to explain every action and decision I make. When my family/friends ask me why I broke up with my ex. I reply with "she doesn't fit the system"

Stewart Downing it is then. he's hard working and can get stuck in. he's a match made in heaven for "jose's system"

I'm just having some fun right now. don't mind me

A player that far down the pecking order can't be that good. sell that average luxury player and use some of the funds to buy a hardworking player like lee cattermole that will fit the jose system I say.

Oh really I didn't know that. I thought he was the main reason behind our failures in previous years and just an average luxury player at best. you learn something new everyday.

Let's wait and see then

What does it matter where he would play? why do you care? since he doesn't add any significant value to us and doesn't fit jose's style according to you.

You just have to laugh. If someone told me that a day will come in the not so distant future when Chelsea fans would view mata in such low regard, I would say no way

Why are people worried that selling him to utd would mean strengthening a rival. I thought he was the reason for our failures over the years and a player that adds no value to the team. This is all a bit confusing now.

Oh you said, it's confirmed and settled then.