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Of course the players aren't all blameless but is it not the role of the manager to be a motivator too? If Mourinho can't do something about the poor motivation (why are they poorly motivated in the first place?) he simply isn't doing his job very well.

Awesome, you have to scroll slowely to get the vibe though . Are Cahill and Hazard looking a bit jealous in the 6th and 9th pic? Love triangle perhaps?

Bad run is going on for quite some time now, since his time with Real Madrid in my opinion. He may have won Chelsea the league last season but the way the team plays has never really impressed me, instead maybe the beginning of last season but it all went downhill second part of the season.

This division between plastic, fake fans and real fans is plain stupid. Define a real Chelseafan? Everyone is fan of the club for his or her own reasons. Some are here because they followed Chelsea for twenty years others because they have become a fan last year, some because of a certain player they like etc... Those are all valid reasons which doesn't make one fan better than another. If some people on here are criticizing the manager that doesn't mean they are 'plastic fans' either, no it means they want some changes so the club can become better. They may be wrong in their reasoning but it doenst make them anything less of a 'true fan'.

If the players are indeed still behind him there's no point of letting him go yet

You forgot the:

The board is giving him another chance. Maybe it is the most reasonable thing to do. Finding a replacement now will be hard and Mou can try to proof himself at least till december. I still think he eventually has to go though, Mourinho doesn't seem like the man who can turn this situation around. I could be wrong of course.

Hazard was more consistently good than Sanchez last season though Sanchez had his moments. This season is indeed a whole other story. Players arent static units, they change every day, every year, every situation etc... Thats why most of the 'this one is better than that one'-comparisons' are often just a waste of time.

You and Mou overestimated Hazard. He isn't and will never be in the league of Messi and Ronaldo. He's a very good player and last season we saw him in his best shape. But he's not able to get us out of this desperate situation. I think he's not the leadertype, not the type that steps up when thing are going bad. Some players just aren't made for that. I concur that José's tactics are holding him back though.

Overreacting much?

So: The players are playing like shit so it must be their fault .A bit simplistic really. But at least you are asking the right question, why are they shit? And there propably are a multitude of reasons. Mismanagement, bad atmosphere, lack of personal motivation, etc.... You can't deny that somewhere in there the manager is playing a big role.

If two or even three players are playing below par it would be understandable, but almost a whole team !? For me that's a strong indication the coach is doing something very wrong.

BS argument.The team has changed a lot in the recent ten years. Players came and players went. A lot of the players have not experienced those sackings. While I agree that some teams sack their managers way too soon, there are boundaries. Mourinho has been inadequate as a coach since last february, yes he won us a league but he destroyed the team's attacking intent, then there was the Eva-situation and now there are all those rumours (I know just rumours) about his bad attitude in the dressing room + his stuborness to change players or tactics (Iva is STILL on),. This had gone too far and Mou has shown no willingness to change, he's destroying the team. He has to go or this will only get worse.

Wasn't there an article some time ago where Rafa Benitez said that he always had to clean up the mess Mourihno made ( Inter, Chelsea, Real). I know " the fat Spanish waiter" isn't really popular here but maybe there's some truth to it. Mourinho can win you the league short term but is self-destructive (for him AND the team) on the long term.

Of course I understand and concur with criticism of Hazard being underwhelming during most of the last matches but yesterday specifically I honestly think you can't blame him too much. There are times that it is reasonable to single out a players performance (good or bad), yesterday was no such occasion.The ball hardly came to him and even if it did passes beween front players where bad. He made a dangerous effort on goal and tried to drop deeper to collect the ball, sadly all for naught. The team was already playing bad when he came on, the only thing you can blame Hazard of is that he didn't change that. But like I said I don't see any single player changing that, not in this team, not with this lack of chemistry.

Don't know if I like the comparison. In the end Samson grew some of his hair back, took down a temple and got himself killed and buried under the falling stones. Chelsea obviously being the temple in this story it doesn't sound very optimistic.

He was on the pitch for 28 minutes. Not enough to change anything really. Also the team was playing atrociously bad, the ball hardly got to him and the interplay between the front players was erratic. May sound like a Hazard apologist and fanboy, and maybe I am but I really think you can't blame him much for yesterday. He did more in those 28' than what Pedro did in 73'. I am quite certain not even Ronaldo or Messi could make a difference in a team playing this bad. Stop singling out players (Ivanovic being the exception), it's the failure of an entire team and its coach.

The Good: Begovic, Azpi and Willian. The Bad: Pedro, Fabregas and Matic. & The Ugly: Ivanovic

Hazard greeting king Filip of Belgium. I like him even more now.

HOw DaRe You CriTisiZe EdeN, He IS PeRfect, At leAst he DoesN't Eat PizzZA aLL the TiMe WhiLe riDinG a PiNk VesPA !!!!!!!!

Rochefort 10 or St Bernardus 12, mhmmm

Magmar really does have a blowjob face. Paul Pogba

Lol, and the cartoon discussion just keeps on without noticing. Samurai X anybody?

No, Draxler to Wolfsburg.