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Essien had technique. He wasnt just a ramires. Obviously, not on yaya's level, but who is? Do you really think essien was limited? Like rambo?

its true, however, cr7 cannot due much of what messi can do.... I guess it depends who one rates more. For me, Messi is significantly better than cr7. However, there are a ton of things cr7 can do that Messi can't and vice versa... But the point was Ronaldo can do everything Messi can, not Cristiano.

Your right. Yaya has better technique than essien, but I never said he didnt... However, the question is who would fit better at Chelsea? Honestly, if yaya came to chelsea, than lampard would of never been needed... SO, technically, it would of been essien and yaya, who would of beasted anyone in england...

Give Chelsea kovaic... DEAL

SSS were not certain starters. You even said it wasnt until later on sterling had a prominent role within Liverpool... Liverpool has no balance on their squad. Watch chelsea play, whenever oscar/willian is sub for someone else.. It's a completely different team... Also, Oscar would start over both cms in allen and hendo and cant start over gerrard, because he is gerrard.

Chelsea is built for hazard moreso than anyone else on the squad.... maybe, not to the extent of madrid and cr7 or messi and barcelona, but still.

Thiago is better than Cesc. Only controversial in London and the rest of England...

Neymar goals.... courtesy of redcafe. Neymar has scored goals in everything that was put in front of him for brazil. He cannot control who brazil faces... Messi has only 5 goals in his world cup career and cr7 has 3 goals.... Neymar got 4 goals in 4 matches and would of had more had he not gotten injured.... Neymar is a scoring machine... The idea that none of the records can be broken is farced, because Neymar is the one that can break it. Also, no people dont care because r10 brought joy to barcelona and saved them from mediocrity. No ronaldinho, messi would have been existed. Primary difference between ronaldo vs messi is that ronaldo can do everything messi can, but not vice versa...

But thy didn't play every minute of every game and no one gives a shit about club world cup and super cup and supercopa....

Alonso. Torres. Cesc. Ramos. Casillas. Villa. Capdevilla. were not barca's core. Take a day off mate. Spain's best team was their 2008 team, not their world cup team.

i like how he puts a picture of puyol winning the world cup... Which has any relevance to Messi...

Maybe one day..... Maybe one day Messi would go against great defenders.. Not like getting marked out complelely to an old Nesta and a young varane.

Wait, the facebook kids are the age of analyzing? The same facebook kids on the chelsea fb page that has a million arabic comments as top comments when salah signed on? Ronaldo's appraisal from journalists, managers, former and current players and football fans are down to a couple of factors. The records he broke and his complete changing of the game of football and his position. It takes little consideration that just on the pure ability of Ronaldo, who played for multiple clubs was successful in every club and national team he played for. Messi was the best player in this generation, but even the argentinas dont recognize the greatness of Messi, while maradonna is a god there. Neymar is already a few goals away from Messi internationally at 5 years his junior and already has 9 goals in 9 games this season coming back from his world cup injury. One can imagine, how good neymar would be statisically, if he was given the free role. The same role, where in brazil he scored as many goals as messi in less games.... I never understood the versatility comment. Everyone had to play for Messi after the r10 era... It was so evident in this world cup and the exact reason why aguero sucked balls. Ronaldo at his peak was untouchable as was Ronaldinho. r9+r10 peak >Messi's peak. Ask catalans about it, they still say r10 was the best era of football for them.

Actually, it is... Age is relevant when discussing people that played before your time. How can a kid born in the 90s comment about a player that started in the 90s? Why dont I say pele greatest of all time? Because Pele was before my time... HOW the F would I know how good pele was? How the f would i know how good distefano was? You dont understand that logic? Times change, society changes, football changes, its a whole different argument with different spectrums of time.

You said Oscar wouldnt start on liverpool, when in actuallity liverpool is shit. Basically, you think they are better than what they are. Usually supporters of teams, think they are better than what they really are... So, in that logic, you do support Liverpool because if you didnt, you wouldnt refute my comments about liverpool being midtable team.

I think this is the confusion with Oscar... When Oscar was the key under menenes, oscar was brazil's best player... However, after scolari took over, neymar become the best player. Im pretty sure a lot of people would say the team under Menedez looked better with oscar under the helm vs neymar and scolari. At chelsea, oscar was rarely given a true free role for the team. Oscar versatility and tenacity might of been his downfall. The fact he could press like a dog, tackle from the n10 position and track back, might of gave reason for the coach to use him that way, so chelsea would be more balanced and allow eden the free role... Having the free role is really significant in terms of stats. Perfect example is ozil and mata. Once they were shifted wide, they were never as good as their previous stats claimed (I still think ozil the best n10 along with silva). Eden did not get a free role with wilmots and belgium, therefore he was completely irrelevant in the world cup. Was it really the fact hazard was not good or the fact wilmots made the team that way and shifted towards the cms instead (KDB)?

Petty arguments with stats? Im pretty sure stats is the one who made another comment to me. I didnt say anything to stats, until he did. Don't butt it late in the game, stick to posting kpop crap. The mod can say what they want and I understand, but your irrelevant.

You just said you were going to ignore it, than you still replied to it.. What is it, make up your mind. Now i know why you have identity issues... Oscar would start over sterling, hendo, coutinho and daniel. If Liverpool wanted balance, they would of never played with 2 strikers and deficient defensive midfielders... Sorry, I dont play for Chelsea. I dont make decisions for chelsea. I'm not from England/london. Im pretty sure I was the one that said cesc should be future captain and everyone did their smartass comment about it... I slate cesc at the obvious. He is slow and he is a liability defensively. Nothing wrong about that. Numerous times this year, the opposition went through the middle like no one was even there.... Also, I dont have thiago posters on my wall. I dont have any posters in my house fyi. Im not a kid.

Mata scored 20 goals on a shit chelsea team and scored like 1 goal the season after on a better squad. Oscar scored more goals than sterling last year as well.... Sterling, obviously is better at creating fouls because of his pace and dribbling ability. Liverpool play offense at the expense of their defense. Chelsea does not. Oscar when brazil was centered around him was better than neymar as well (or looked better). Sterling puts a decent shift in defensively, more than I thought. However, he plays on a free flow team with no discipline.

Actually, you know your wrong because I made a ton of comments about team gb right before that statement regarding liverpool... Also, I have no clue how rodgers was going to play daniel and balotelli together. Maybe, 4-4-2. Oscar would start . Maybe 4-2-3-1, oscar would start. Maybe 4-3-3, oscar would start. Oscar would of started for liverpool last year and this year. You can keep supporting Liverpool like you do and maybe one day you can figure out your identity issues..

Oscar scored more goals than sterling this year..... Sterling has 1 more assist than oscar, the same bs assist sterling got for can's deflected goal against Chelsea. Difference is sterling is the number1 option on liverpool, while cesc and hazard are comfortably ahead of oscar in terms of freedom and general offense... Difference is that liverpool plays a more freeflowing attack minded tactic than chelsea. So, in that situation, the key offensive player, should have better stats than the 4option on a team... So, how many goals did sterling score for england in the world cup?

SO, because you have an england flag and sterling plays for England, that means I know you were jamacian? Where did I say you were jamacian? Good thing you mentioned that thread... You said oscar would not start this years team....

Because liverpool already have coutinho on their squad... So, basically, coutinho would flourished in a free role spamming thru balls like he did the season prior with suarez and daniel.. Sterling is not a runner like schurrle. He is like hazard, a dribbling maestro that needs the ball to be effective... Oscar would start over Sterling, allen, hendo..... Im pretty sure oscar is tactical better than anyone on chelsea/liverpool not named John terry. Pretty sure oscar can play 4-3-3, since thats the shape chelsea takes a good chunk of the time.

But, essentially thats what your saying. Cesc is superior to thiago in this setup. Yet, thiago was superior at a younger age at barca. Thiago was superior at a younger age at munich as well vs kroos, which is why selling kroos wasnt a huge deal, yet losing thiago was for barca... When thiago moved to munich the season prior, everyone said the same thing... "WTF, would thiago move to a team with a better midfield than barca." He will rot on the bench... etc, etc.. Yet, thiago eventually became the key man for pep until his injury... Fact is that if Cesc wasnt a chelsea player, Im sure a lot of people that oppose my opinion on this topic would have different opinions concerning cesc.

Race card pulling.... SO, when I PM you a day or 2 later, it was an england flag, you apparently changed it right? Maybe, you can see people's flags on the mobile version of this forum... Also, I said cesc was a weak link defensively. Not the weak link of chelsea... TWO DIFFERENT THINGS... I also said hazard was a weak link defensively as well...