MrExcalibur100

We don't agree on some stuff, and I don't agree with the way you attack some of our best players unfairly, but I agree with you 101%. This is what bothers me the most about Jose. Even Ferguson, the best ever manager never gave himself so much credit for his achievements. This is not about being a bad loser but this is about having a tremendous ego, a Cult of Personality in every sense of that phrase. The way he sometimes speaks in first person "I did this", "I won the league from the best Barcelona" "I broke the goalscoring record in Spain" is funny. I initially thought it was a language issue but I realize that he speaks this way in both Spanish and Portuguese. He also doesn't miss a chance to berate our previous achievements. "I don't like the way Chelsea played in the last 2 seasons".Well, hello, we are not playing that much better in terms of style! When the journo asked him about Terry crying, he used it as an opportunity to praise himself indirectly. "He's crying because he got knocked out in the 2nd leg of a semi-final, last season how could he cry when he got knocked out in the group". Then belittling our Europa league achievement. Dude, we won a league title, FA cups, Champions league and Europa league without you. But all that stuff is not even that important. The sad thing is when his ego extends to the players and the team and causes unrest in the camp, a'la Madrid.

Because I have a different opinion than you do? I've been supporting this club long enough to know that Mourinho is not the be all and end all and is just another employee at the club. He is not Roman Abramovich. He needs to shut up and do his job, manage the team, bring success, play better football and bring through the ridiculous amount of talent in both youth teams. And Hazard also needs to shut up and stop making statements to the French media that can be twisted and construed in the wrong way. He is not a kid anymore.

Forget football. Forget results. The exact same thing must be said about our manager. Mourinho is the one that brings it on himself. He brings negativity to the club that is not limited to what happens on the football pitch. He has always been this way, but he has become more worse since his stint at Madrid. Personally, I was on this same thread preaching a message of positivity after the Atletico defeat. You can go back and read my post immediately after the game. Mourinho showed me today (and not just today, but all season) that he cares more about personal glory than his so-called love for Chelsea.

And even Bale is getting a free role now against the big teams. The match against Bayern was a clear example. Ancelotti was tactically flexible enough to go away from his usual 4-3-3 to a 4-4-2 to give both Ronaldo and Bale less defensive duties. What was the end result? They slaughtered the European champions on their ground. He also did something similar against Barcelona in the Copa Del Rey final. Mourinho's tactics are far too cautious. Not only does he have our best player (who is just returning from a calf injury, btw) chasing fullbacks like a donkey, he plays Azpilicueta on the wing with Schurrle on the bench. End result? We get outclassed by a team with 1/10 th of our budget.

You don't get it, do you. The trophyless season and brand of football are secondary issues. The primary issue here is Mourinho's huge ego and lack of responsibility. Why did Mourinho prepare a long dossier to defend his lack of silverware in the past two seasons then in that SAME press conference, throw his best player under the bus to save face from criticism about the style of football. It reeks of insecurity and as a fan watching the entire press conference, I was let down by him and I won't be surprised if some players are too. But it's time to get over it and move on i guess. But knowing Mourinho, this won't be the first or the last time. His mouth will get him fired before any footballing reasons will. I hope NOT, but that won't surprise me at all.

Deflecting the blame from the terrible football he has had us playing this season together with it being a trophyless season. (I have no problem with the second part, but maybe Jose is becoming a bit paranoid that he might win nothing for two seasons in a row). It's all about furthering HIS own glory anyway. System? What system? Do we even have a recognized style of play? Martinez has been at Everton for the same time period as Mourinho and has implemented a system of good attacking football with a vastly inferior squad to ours. Same thing with Pellegrini at City. As for this. Well the rest of your rant is just attacking Straw man. It's obvious you didn't even read my comment. Come back next time with a more cogent, intelligent reply. "FUCK OFF?" Yep. Thought as much.

I'm sure he was told what every CFC manager gets told and what most managers at the big clubs get told: (1) Challenge for and win trophies (2) Play an attacking, entertaining brand of football (3) Bring through the youth

Mourinho is doing the same thing he did at Madrid. Causing division between the fans and the players. Between Madridistas and "Mourinhistas". I hope some of the fans are now starting to see through it. I've already posted the vines of goals 1 and goals 3 that show Cole and Azpilicueta desperately out of position, both are in the box instead of maintaining their fullback position, leaving Hazard exposed. Go watch the replays again. This is not a Hazard issue, but a Mourinho ego issue. Watching Hazard this season, I believe he has done more than his fair share of defensive work, certainly more than other top wingers do for their teams. I've seen him track back like an animal at times and cover Azpilicueta on many many occasions, and if we're honest with ourselves, we would all agree on that too. That's what amazes me about Mourinho's comments. He's basically been our most consistent attacking player and the only one in the front 4 who creates something in the away games, when the new guys like Schurrle, Willian and even Oscar struggle with the extra physicality "allowed" by the refs. We are a team of individuals who play disjointed, ugly football and rely (over rely) on Hazard to bail us out. (Again, eerily similar to his Madrid times with Ronaldo taking the place of Hazard and to his last days at Chelsea, with Drogba taking the place of Hazard as THE guy who bails out the team of individuals). Luckily for us, we don't have that many big ego's in the dressing room any longer so the situation is unlikely to spill over quickly this time. Back to Hazard. To say he hasn't given 100% for the team is a bold faced lie and Mourinho's said it not because of how he feels, but to deflect criticism from himself and on to anything else, even his own team. He has already done it on many occasions this season. To Torres, Ba, Eto'o, Schurrrle, Hazard and the entire team ("I made eleven mistakes", "my team lack balls") No other manager does shit like this. If Mourinho continues down this path, it's only a matter of time before he loses the dressing room.

I doubt it considering how many AM's and wingers we have. A 4-3-3 only limits the slot in the line-up for those players.

The question is can he?

Mourinho is the drama queen and he has brought his drama back to Chelsea combined with the dull football. The most interesting thing about him is not how he sets his teams out to play but what he says in the press room. Guardiola once said he was "the fucking boss" of the press room. Now no trophies for two seasons and he is as bitter as ever. He has thrown Torres and Ba under the bus, made disparaging comments about an African legend in Eto'o and has now very harshly criticized Hazard. Of course he's done it all to hide his shortcomings this season. Or is it "I made eleven mistakes" or "my players lack balls". Always someone else's fault. He has every right to criticize his players but he should do it in training or in private and not in a press conference. It's sad because in this SAME press conference, Jose was quick to protect himself from criticism about his mini-trophy drought by going on a very long (prepared I'm sure) rant on his nearly misses and relative (one season really) success at Madrid. But yet, he had no problems throwing his star player under the bus, as if Hazard hasn't improved that side of his game greatly (Mourinho's words) . That's no way to represent your players. It reeks of "self", "me first and me alone". He cares more about his legacy. His scathing reaction to Wenger's "fear to fail" comment were very telling on reflection. Note : This is not "I hate Jose" or "I want him to be sacked" no, this is simply stating an unpopular opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. Jose needs to change his attitude.

You're going off from you initial point now. You said Jose is the best manager in the world and I disagree. I don't think he's the best right now. He is one of the best, but you can't go two seasons without winning fuck all and claim to be the best when there are other managers out there doing better with far less resources. But I'm not going to go back and forth with a Jose fan boy whose avatar is Mourinho draped in blue paint. Yep, let's talk about events that happened in 2005 and 2006 to prove that Jose is the best in 2014. Logic.

Simeone has won the same amount of trophies Mourinho has won in the last 3 years with a far, FAR less expensive side and a less talented one as well. He is also in the process (at least IMO) of eclipsing Mourinho's Porto glory if he can win the CL with Atletico. Let's face it. Jose's Porto side didn't face that many formidable sides in the knock-out phases. It was one of the weakest CL's since the tournament was rebranded. Apart from Man United, they beat Monaco, Deportivo La Coruna and Lyon. Simeone has had to beat AC Milan, Barcelona, and Chelsea and is still unbeaten in the competition. All this while while doing the impossible in the best league in the world, La liga. Breaking the duopoly of Madrid and Barca while being on 1/hundredth of their budget.

And one of the reasons why the comments were uncalled for. Mourinho won't hesitate to wash dirty linen in the public if it means he is absolved of direct criticism. Hazard is partly to blame to for even saying anything about "style of play" to the manipulative French press after ALL the talk surrounding Chelsea and Mourinho have been about that. But Mourinho has not helped issues at all.

He hasn't been since 2010 and is about to go two seasons trophyless.. Simeone just beat his side with an Atletico Madrid XI worth 35 million euros, almost the same price as Willian alone. But that's not even the issue. You can't continue to publicly criticize your players and blame everyone for yourself because you are trying to preserve your reputation.

Although this is not the full gist of what Mourinho said.

You miss the point though. This is not about victories or defeats. This is about being an ambassador for the football club. Watch the presser again, it's embarrassing. The Chelsea presser-coordinator seated next to Jose had to make that akward *coughing* noise (as if to say, you're talking to much now) when Jose started going on about Hazard and how many trophies he has won in the last 4 years.

This has more to do with Mourinho and less to do with me. Mourinho has an enormous ego that will get him in trouble with Roman again and would cause him to be fired. He forgets that he is an employee at this football club and gets ahead of himself with some of his comments. I want him to finish his contract and I want it all to work out, but he needs to change his attitude. Being a bad loser is one thing, throwing your players under the boss to save face from criticism (in this case, style of football) is another. "I made eleven mistakes", "I don't have a striker" "my 3 strikers are good" "Hazard has shown evolution in defensive game" "I'm not happy with Hazard's defensive game (all season is what he meant not that isolated incident)", then the ref bullshit, even though we were crap against Villa and Sunderland prior to major fuck ups from refs............... He just needs to caught out the antics and tame his ego. That's all I'm saying bro. Please let's not resort to petty name-calling.

Unfortunately, he might have this time and it won't be the first or last time. He just keeps on burying himself with some of the stuff he comes out with and this isn't the first time. Jose should know that Roman will have him gone before Hazard, I'm certain of that. This is why I had my reservations about him initially, apart from the brand of football.

And please stop with the "Jose is never wrong" sentiment all the time. He is not the founder of the club or a god. He is not Roman. He's a great manager and a Chelsea legend, but he needs to have a rethink of his behaviour if he plans to stay here "forever".

Short but sweet, I agree 1000%. We can't afford to turn a blind eye because it's Mourinho. He said it himself, no one is bigger than the club. No player, not him and not even Roman. Take responsibility and stop giving the media ammunition by publicly criticizing our players. Torres one day, Eto'o the next, Hazard today. Get a grip, Jose. It's not always about you.

Unpopular opinion = I'm starting to get turned off by him, I'm sorry. He's changed. He's not the same guy he was in his first spell here. I'm not calling for him to be sacked, far from it, I'm not insane but he needs to relax a little and accept defeats sometimes. He needs to know he is an ambassador of this football club with every word that comes out of his mouth placed under scrutiny. The clever quotes are fun to listen to, but when you start throwing your players under the bus to deflect from criticism, then you know you have a problem. No one needs to remind Mourinho he's a great manager, but Jesus Christ, the guy needs to curb his ego. His (prepared) speech on how he feels to be going two seasons without a trophy was sad to listen to. Sometimes you wonder if he really loves the club or if he is mostly concerned with furthering the legend of "Mourinho the Special One".

Practically, you are spot on, but this is not the first time Jose is deflecting blame away from himself to hide his failures.

Ok, fair enough, that's one example out of 9 defeats this season. Against Newcastle, Sunderland, Villa, and PSG he either criticized his players or blamed the refs. He has gone from a charming individual to an insufferable person who can't take stuff on his chin. In this same article you point out, he is praising the strikers, then we go away to PSG and lose and all of a sudden, is "I lack a striker". A manager like Ancelotti will never say stuff like that and it's common sense really. Now he throws Hazard under the bus again for making a mistake. The same player who is was just until weeks ago "happy with his defensive contribution". This is a young nucleus of players he's dealing with. And it's an unpopular opinion, but I neither like his behaviour or the way his teams play football. That's why I had reservations of him coming back to be the guy that brings stability to this new Chelsea. Some people think he is the be all end all of Chelsea and treat him as a god. The only person that deserves that is Roman, no one else. I've been a supporter before he was here and I will be one after he's gone. I'm not going to "agree" with all his actions, because I can see when he's right or wrong. Mourinho looked like he was about to handle the Hazard question properly "The quotes were taken out of context" but he was goaded by some journalist and proceeded to throw Hazard under the bus to deflect criticism from the poor brand of football. It's clever, but I saw through it.