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Wasn't it he who proceeded to hit a team mate with a bat in training? :lol:

You mean on that dog Asif lol, he deserved it. As a cricketer Asif was absolutely class he was actually top of the test rankings (bowler) recently as well. Outside of the field not so much.

Kallis just got 100 btw, superb knock too.

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You mean on that dog Asif lol, he deserved it. As a cricketer Asif was absolutely class he was actually top of the test rankings (bowler) recently as well. Outside of the field not so much.

Kallis just got 100 btw, superb knock too.

Pakistan is so blessed with natural talent, it's unreal. As far as administration goes, they manage to make the BCCI look like an honest, upright, well run body, which is saying something. But the talent that is teeming there (and rotting away, you may say) makes me a tad jealous.

Asif had such great natural ability ... I remember him running through our sides so many times. Shame he turned out a greedy greasy fucker who spit in the face of the great game.

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Jai, what do you think of Yadav? Jury's still out on him, from me. I was hoping Aaron would've grabbed his chances v. Windies, but didn't really have a solid handle on things.

I really like him. I think he's got the potential to be a much better bowler than the one we thought Ishant Sharma would turn out to be. Ishant's development has stalled badly imo. 4 years ago on this very tour he had a in-his-prime Ponting ducking for cover, serious pace and bundles of potential but it's just all gone downhill and he's a sad parody of what he could have been.

Yadav's got pace obviously but he's also an intelligent bowler, reads the game better than most of the other options. Needs some work on his length but that will come with time, hopefully. He'll grow as he travels to the different parts of the world and learn the best lines and lengths suited to those conditions. I hope Zak takes him under his wing and imparts some of his knowledge.

The Board has a responsibility to safeguard Yadav and Aaron. Under no circumstances should they be played in the IPL ... the extra strain of those unnecessary fixtures is something fast bowlers can avoid. Injuries and pace bowling go hand in hand, but why make attract them? Handle with kid gloves, as they say. The guy's built like an ox and can lead the attack for years to come if he can stay injury free.

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Pakistan is so blessed with natural talent, it's unreal. As far as administration goes, they manage to make the BCCI look like an honest, upright, well run body, which is saying something. But the talent that is teeming there (and rotting away, you may say) makes me a tad jealous.

Asif had such great natural ability ... I remember him running through our sides so many times. Shame he turned out a greedy greasy fucker who spit in the face of the great game.

Very,very true I kid you not when I say their is a weekly blog for Pakistani talent, and their not just the average talent where every youngster is the next big thing. I reckon Pakistan will easily win the u19 tournament this year. In regard to the PCB, a plague at the spearhead in Ijazz Butt has left now , Zaka Ashraf seems a lot more sensible. He's doing a good job restoring the sanity, and has set some good goals. Amir was out of this world, better than Akram at his age, he'll come back soon though - absolutely hate how the corrupt exploited the young boy.

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Imagine if Bradman had the same Amount of Matches Sachin had...Scary to think about :blink:

Imagine if bowlers at that time had the same technology as today that helps them to analyze a batsman and determine the batsmens weakness.

If Bradman has an Avg of 99 Sachin has 99 tons and will go well past 100.

Bradman was good in only one format. Sachin is a Giant in all format. And got tons in all formats including 20 20.

The fact that it is a never ending debate proves that these two are the greatest batsmen of all time. Not one greater than the other although I am tempted to say Sachin is better because of the above mentioned points

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I have No problem saing Sachin is Better than Ricky, but it is Annyoing whan People say he is SOOO much Better than Ponting, when in Reality that's not True, When both were in their Prime they were both Just Batting Gods, almost Unstoppable.

There is Sachin and Bradman and then there are the rest like Ponting, Kallis, Lara. I remember 4 yrs back Ponting was tipped to over take Sachin in the number of test Tons. Unfortunately for u and pontig Sachin raised his game several notches and since then He is the King. Ponting hasn't scored a test ton for 2 yrs and u have the audacity to use his name in the same breath as Sachin and Bradman.

Even Lara is not up there with Sachin and Bradman. Lara is like Gerrard inconsistent but will always be remembered for the match winning knocks. Sachin is like Lampard. People say he never wins matches for india but stats speak for him.

If Sachin was an Australian he would have scored even more considering how shot indian bowlers are and that he wouldn't have had to face McGrath and other Aussie bowlers. I know ifs and buts don't count but this was a response to your If Ricky had played as many games as Sachin

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Lara > Kallis > Ponting > Dravid > Tendulker Yousef is a goos shout too. ( thats this generation.)

Tendulkar made his 1st century in his 79th match.

1st ODI hundred, but yeh I understand you and @ warnie:

Career averages -

1. Kallis - 57

2. Sachin - 56

3. Ponting - 53

4. Dravid - 53

5. Lara - 52

Kallis is pretty deadly underrated, probably SA's greatest ever. Less hundreds but 300 wickets.

If he didn't play Akhtar you mean :D I think he has 6 or something/ 99 hundreds against Pakistan.

Tend v Akhtar:

0 (1 B) (ATC 1998/99)

9* (13 b 1x4) (1999 WC)

0 (1 B) (1999/2000 Sharjah Cup)

22 (12 b 3x4 1x6) (2003 World Cup)

2003/04 Pakistan v India

20 (23 b 3x4 1x6)

22* (26 b 3x4)

6 (7 b 1x4)

2* (10 B)

62* (77 b 6x4 1x6)

0 (1 B)

25* (23 b 4x4) (2004 Asia Cup)

7* (9 B) (2004/05 BCCI Platinum match)

2005/06 Pakistan v India

4 (11 b 1x4)

0* (2 B)

13* (12 b 3x4)

2007/08 India v Pakistan

4 (7 b 1x4)

5* (12 b 1x4)

6* (10 b 1x4)

19* (26 b 3x4)

1* (1 B)

16* (34 b 2x4)

9* (10 b 2x4)

Tendulkar will be remembered as a legend no doubt but you can't say the likes of Lara, Ricahrds or Ponitng aren't their.

MISBAH in his 1st 74 matches

Total runs 2,183, Average = 44.55 , 16 fifties and No century

TENDULKAR in his 1st 74 Matches

Total runs 2,080, Average = 33.54 , 17 fifties and No century

See what I mean? Misbah isn't better, but look? And Imagine if PCB didn't treat him like crap and bring him back in his 30s

And t20???

T20Is 1 1 0 10 10 10.00 12 83.33

Got 100 against Kochi or something, but not internationally.

I'm not doubting his greatness, but you speak as if he is quite undoubtedly the best ever. I don't think so. A legend for sure that is undoubted.

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Lara > Kallis > Ponting > Dravid > Tendulker Yousef is a goos shout too. ( thats this generation.)

Tendulkar made his 1st century in his 79th match.

And he went on to make 98 more.. Who else did that? Uh that's right.. No-one.

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And he went on to make 98 more.. Who else did that? Uh that's right.. No-one.

Oh you mean the man who has 99 hundreds and NONE included in the Highly respected wisden list? Fact of the matter is he IS a LEGEND. I acknowledge that but is not greatest. The giggs of cricket. He is not a perfect batsmen, to be one, he has to be perfect in every sector. In test I rate Dravid better than him, as do many. Tend's test S/R is 32. For me he is clearly playing for the accolades now. Its obvious. I'm not doubting his status even Nasser Hussain believes he's playing for the stats. His last hundred was last march but I know he'll never stop until he reaches it. Credit to his fitness levels but you cannot conincee me to him being the best. I'd say Ponting is better being a brilliant batter and a great captain who's led aussies to WC. BTW are you Indian/heritage that might explain a lot haha. I saw you support India :P

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Oh you mean the man who has 99 hundreds and NONE included in the Highly respected wisden list? Fact of the matter is he IS a LEGEND. I acknowledge that but is not greatest. The giggs of cricket. He is not a perfect batsmen, to be one, he has to be perfect in every sector. In test I rate Dravid better than him, as do many. Tend's test S/R is 32. For me he is clearly playing for the accolades now. Its obvious. I'm not doubting his status even Nasser Hussain believes he's playing for the stats. His last hundred was last march but I know he'll never stop until he reaches it. Credit to his fitness levels but you cannot conincee me to him being the best. I'd say Ponting is better being a brilliant batter and a great captain who's led aussies to WC. BTW are you Indian/heritage that might explain a lot haha. I saw you support India :P

He may be playing for the stats now, but what he's done in his prime has been for the nation. I agree, and also made the point before, Dravid is a shining batsman in the squad forced into Tendulkar's shadow. Most Indian fans acknowledge this, but that doesn't change Tendulkar's status either. He's a man who's innings have brought us back into matches that we looked almost certain of losing. He plays the game with grace, elegance, seldom loses his anger or get confrontational. I believe he's the greatest batsman of this generation, and perhaps of all time (though the latter is more debatable). I am of Indian decent, my great-grandparents were from there :)

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He may be playing for the stats now, but what he's done in his prime has been for the nation. I agree, and also made the point before, Dravid is a shining batsman in the squad forced into Tendulkar's shadow. Most Indian fans acknowledge this, but that doesn't change Tendulkar's status either. He's a man who's innings have brought us back into matches that we looked almost certain of losing. He plays the game with grace, elegance, seldom loses his anger or get confrontational. I believe he's the greatest batsman of this generation, and perhaps of all time (though the latter is more debatable). I am of Indian decent, my great-grandparents were from there :)

lol makes sense :D I respect how he's maintained his fitness for many years and greatness is subjective to an extent. If you support india it goes without saying so many of my indian friends believe like you.

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