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[1chelsea 864]

Hello Joe Hawes,

So there is no way I can be part of this your support for me who really want in but not from the state. Give me exception just for me. Please

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[Joe Hawes 3]

On 9/23/2016 at 8:17 PM, 1chelsea said:

Hello Joe Hawes,

So there is no way I can be part of this your support for me who really want in but not from the state. Give me exception just for me. Please

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Hi There,

 

We can only offer support to UK customers im afraid. The only reason for this is all the bookies terms and offers will be different in each country so unfortunately we would not be able to advise what will be profitable in your country. However your more that welcome to sign up to learn how to do matched betting and in the process you could find offers in your country and using our training you would be able to see if they are profitable or not.

 

Thanks

Joe Hawes

[Joe Hawes 3]

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[cosmicway 1,333]

Matched betting is to make use of two different markets or more to make money irrespective of the outcome of a match / other sports event / other event.
Sometimes the markets are in disparity so you can actually do this.
For instance one bookie says "Hillary for president = 1.50" and another one says "Trump for president = 8.00" then you profit by backing both sides !
The bookie who says 1.50 for Hillary Clinton will give about 2.60 for Donald Trump. More than 3.00 he cannot possibly give.
The bookie who says 8.00 for Donald Trump, will give about 1.08 for Hillary Clinton. More than 1.14 he cannot possibly give !
But because the two are in disparity, you can take advantage by dividing your total bet proportionally.
In this particular bet it won't possibly happen. They all know all the details of the US presidential race and a disparity won't happen.

It happens in less important events.
I remember having seen a huge one for a match between some lesser known Asian football teams.

There are snags:

1st) They may "correct" it before you are done placing your bets. Thus the one with "Trump" at 8.00 by the time you strike the bet may say "ooops, it's 2.70 now".
2nd) Are both companies invlolved licensed in your jurisdiction so you are allowed to place bets ?
3d) Betting tax issues.
4th) Are both companies reputable ?

There exist some companies with bad reputation. In 2004 there was one who actually carried out a big advertising campaign in the web as well so they attracted customers. In the euro matches that year, I remember many Greeks backed the national team who actually won it in the end. They did n't get paid, late in the year the said company shut shop and goodbye !
Those years I used Eurobet and Betfair who were trusted companies, but some fell for the scam company.

The big problem now is what happens if you actually start using the method.
Everybody here says that if your bookie catches a whiff that you are into "arbitrage betting" your account is closed !
I don't know why they do that or what problem is it of theirs. If the other company offer different prices then so be it. What is their problem ??
But everybody say they cancel you.
I am not an arbitrage bettor so I 'd like to see what the guys who started this service have to say about it.




 

 

 

[Joe Hawes 3]

On 9/28/2016 at 9:39 AM, cosmicway said:

Matched betting is to make use of two different markets or more to make money irrespective of the outcome of a match / other sports event / other event.
Sometimes the markets are in disparity so you can actually do this.
For instance one bookie says "Hillary for president = 1.50" and another one says "Trump for president = 8.00" then you profit by backing both sides !
The bookie who says 1.50 for Hillary Clinton will give about 2.60 for Donald Trump. More than 3.00 he cannot possibly give.
The bookie who says 8.00 for Donald Trump, will give about 1.08 for Hillary Clinton. More than 1.14 he cannot possibly give !
But because the two are in disparity, you can take advantage by dividing your total bet proportionally.
In this particular bet it won't possibly happen. They all know all the details of the US presidential race and a disparity won't happen.

It happens in less important events.
I remember having seen a huge one for a match between some lesser known Asian football teams.

There are snags:

1st) They may "correct" it before you are done placing your bets. Thus the one with "Trump" at 8.00 by the time you strike the bet may say "ooops, it's 2.70 now".
2nd) Are both companies invlolved licensed in your jurisdiction so you are allowed to place bets ?
3d) Betting tax issues.
4th) Are both companies reputable ?

There exist some companies with bad reputation. In 2004 there was one who actually carried out a big advertising campaign in the web as well so they attracted customers. In the euro matches that year, I remember many Greeks backed the national team who actually won it in the end. They did n't get paid, late in the year the said company shut shop and goodbye !
Those years I used Eurobet and Betfair who were trusted companies, but some fell for the scam company.

The big problem now is what happens if you actually start using the method.
Everybody here says that if your bookie catches a whiff that you are into "arbitrage betting" your account is closed !
I don't know why they do that or what problem is it of theirs. If the other company offer different prices then so be it. What is their problem ??
But everybody say they cancel you.
I am not an arbitrage bettor so I 'd like to see what the guys who started this service have to say about it.




 

 

 

Erm, this is nothing to do with arbitrage betting. We advise people NOT to do arbitrage betting. This is something else.

 

And also we only use trusted bookie that have been around for a long time and have a good reputation on sportsbook review.

[cosmicway 1,333]

4 hours ago, Joe Hawes said:

Erm, this is nothing to do with arbitrage betting. We advise people NOT to do arbitrage betting. This is something else.

 

And also we only use trusted bookie that have been around for a long time and have a good reputation on sportsbook review.

I did an arbitrage once.
The match was between Levante and Barcelona FC and I backed Levante to win and they did score a goal.
But as I was watching the game, Levante were hugely outplayed and if I made new bets Barcelona or draw I could win whatever the outcome. I did this and in the end Barcelona won by 4 to 1.
So the arbitrage became possible because through chance I found myself in an advantageous position. It was not an arbitrage resulting from different estimations between two bookmaker companies but it was arbitrage.

But I don't even bother with arbitrage. It's too much trouble for minute percentages.

What exactly is it you are doing then ?
I can write about you in my forum too.
 

[Joe Hawes 3]

On 10/9/2016 at 10:58 PM, cosmicway said:

What exactly is it you are doing then ?
I can write about you in my forum too.
 

We cover many ways to make money. Generally though it involves locking-in a guaranteed profit from free bets & bonuses. This includes new customer offers for opening the account to begin with, the daily offers that bookmakers post, accumulator offers, extra place races, casino offers, bingo.. the list goes on. We have also developed our own horse racing dutching strategy that can be used on a very specific type of race (usually only 1 or 2 per day) that can generate risk-free profit. The higher the odds of the horse that wins, the more we win. If it's the favourite, then it might only be £5 profit. But we had several £400+ winners last month. One member posted a £2.2k profit in September just from this dutching strategy - all completely risk free, and no arbitrage involved.

I highly recommend you try the service, it only costs £1 for 14 days, most members make £100-200+ in this time. Even if you decide it's not something you're interested in, you'll probably learn a few things from our training section. If you join our forum though, seeing how much money people are making, it's hard to ignore..

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 hour ago, Joe Hawes said:

We cover many ways to make money. Generally though it involves locking-in a guaranteed profit from free bets & bonuses. This includes new customer offers for opening the account to begin with, the daily offers that bookmakers post, accumulator offers, extra place races, casino offers, bingo.. the list goes on. We have also developed our own horse racing dutching strategy that can be used on a very specific type of race (usually only 1 or 2 per day) that can generate risk-free profit. The higher the odds of the horse that wins, the more we win. If it's the favourite, then it might only be £5 profit. But we had several £400+ winners last month. One member posted a £2.2k profit in September just from this dutching strategy - all completely risk free, and no arbitrage involved.

I highly recommend you try the service, it only costs £1 for 14 days, most members make £100-200+ in this time. Even if you decide it's not something you're interested in, you'll probably learn a few things from our training section. If you join our forum though, seeing how much money people are making, it's hard to ignore..

Interesting.
I was given a free no strings attached bonus once, a magazine coupon, 5 euros.
It was for Hill's cashable no requirement to deposit.
So I said I 'll make this 100 and cash it or bust.
I put the fiver on a 3 to 1 horse. It wins.
Then the 20 euros on a 4 to 1 horse.
Now as I remember the two market principals were Dettori riding a Godolphin horse against somebody else. I decide to go against Dettori and there is a five minute photo finish in the end. I was following the races from racingpost text, so I phoned someone else who had tv. I lost. I think the other one said "can't make out" and before he hangs the phone, the post printed the result.

But most bonuses have certain rules.
For instance now I have a 5 euro bonus again from bet365. I have to bet 15 euros to make it withdrawable.
How can I make it generate a profit regardless ?
They also have newcomer bonuses -of the whatever value- but again how do I make myself "newcomer" again ?

There was a lot of talk about the bonus profiteers, just like with the arbers.
Some ten years ago some company -don't remember the name- said we have excluded Denmark from our bonuses. The Danes they said were doing something. But why the Danes in particular and how I did not understand.

Also how can you dutch horses and make a certain profit ?
Only if you use arbing.
I will tell you a trick, if you can do it.
Become a member of pmu.fr, the French tote site. That may require you to be in France, or do it through a French colleague but let me assume it can be done.
Then dutch bookie horses with the same horses through la pmu.
I notice some huge discrepancies. Since the French is tote, it is uncertain but maybe it works.
One thing we noticed with the French is they are nationalistic. So they go for Soumillon-Guyon, their jocks and against Moore-Sousa the British jocks when they ride together in the same race. But the UK market may be with Moore's horse. As the betting period draws to its end the two markets converge really but I think it possible you get something out of it in the end.
 

[Joe Hawes 3]

On 10/13/2016 at 2:55 AM, cosmicway said:

1) For instance now I have a 5 euro bonus again from bet365. I have to bet 15 euros to make it withdrawable.
How can I make it generate a profit regardless ?

2) Also how can you dutch horses and make a certain profit ?
Only if you use arbing.
 

In reference to the 2 points above..

1) This is easily achieved. You should be able to make around £4 profit guaranteed from the £5 bonus. This is the sort of thing we do day-in-day-out though usually for larger amounts. And they all add up.

2) No we're not arbing - we're dutching, dutching doesn't involve arbs. It's betting on all outcomes using staggered stakes to result in an equal profit/loss regardless of the outcome. 99% of the time this is a mostly useless strategy. However, we have located a clever way to utilise the idea on some very specific horse races. Which generates results like this:

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

To do as you say you need some pretty fast software to make the searches.
In the horse races the prices change lightning quick so to make the dutching you must do it pretty fast, assuming you found something that breaks even after the selections are dutched.
It still beats me though how one can do this using a single market and not two or more.

Then to make the bonuses count I believe you are taking some risks.
I don't believe it can be done with 100% certainty.
If you have a 5 pound bonus you stand a fair chance to make it claimable.
If you have ten of those maybe you will succeed with 5 of them.
So you made 20 pounds.
The question is where do you get those bonuses ? I mean as "mr. Joe Hawes", non-member of any betting site today maybe you can get 20 bonuses, But can you get as many as you want ?

[Joe Hawes 3]

Hi Cosmicway,

Every matched bet can be made with certainty 100% because we cover all out comes so once the bets are placed no matter the result of the event, we will be in the same position! As to getting free bets and bonuses, bookies offer them out to all new and existing customers, I have not opened up a new account for ages now and never fail to make a nice profit every month Dont get me wrong, im not trying to get people to think this will make them rich becuase matched betting wont do that. However, it will make you a healthy bit of cash every month  

 

Thanks

Joe

[cosmicway 1,333]

On 19/10/2016 at 5:44 PM, Joe Hawes said:

Hi Cosmicway,

Every matched bet can be made with certainty 100% because we cover all out comes so once the bets are placed no matter the result of the event, we will be in the same position! As to getting free bets and bonuses, bookies offer them out to all new and existing customers, I have not opened up a new account for ages now and never fail to make a nice profit every month Dont get me wrong, im not trying to get people to think this will make them rich becuase matched betting wont do that. However, it will make you a healthy bit of cash every month  

 

Thanks

Joe

Yeah ok, there are some repeat bonuses, also many offers.
Bet365 many times allow you to have a free live bet if you already have a pre-match bet on the same match. That's however accompanied by a rule against backing the opposite result in the live.
There are also the "zero takeoff offers".
We have a company here stoiximan.gr who makes one such offer every day. It's a subsidiary of bet365 I think but it's only for football - no races are offered. I don't know if you can become a member since you are not resident in Greece. Maybe you can.
If you become a member to that one maybe you can help by doing it through a banner of mine.

I want to organize a europe-wide campaign against bookmaker excesses and against betting tax.
What do you think about that ?

[Joe Hawes 3]

Hi,

Sorry I must have missed this! Yeah thats right but where you are laying your bets you don't need to do that on bet 365 as your betting on the opposite on betfair  

Im not able to view that site as i get a notice saying i cant because im in the UK. That would be good if you did, we have wanted too but its very difficult as we cant always view the different bookmakers etc unless were are actually in that country.

Thanks

Joe

[Joe Hawes 3]

Cosmicway have you considered "risking" £1 on our trial to just see for yourself? (which we will refund if you aren't happy with the service)

In the time you have commented about your theories you could have seen how it all works by now and made £hundreds 

 

EPIC WIN ALERT! Congrats to Kevin who is another big winner on our loophole we posted last year, that still works today!

 

[1chelsea 864]

On 9/27/2016 at 6:08 AM, Joe Hawes said:

Hi There,

 

We can only offer support to UK customers im afraid. The only reason for this is all the bookies terms and offers will be different in each country so unfortunately we would not be able to advise what will be profitable in your country. However your more that welcome to sign up to learn how to do matched betting and in the process you could find offers in your country and using our training you would be able to see if they are profitable or not.

 

Thanks

Joe Hawes

do you support Canada?

[Joe Hawes 3]

On 11/4/2016 at 1:53 PM, 1chelsea said:

do you support Canada?

Hey,

We can not support Canada directly, However im not sure on the gambling laws online are in Canada? The method behind Matched betting will be the same across the world if you are able to bet online and have a betting exchange in your country. So you could effectively use us as a learning tool and of course we will would help you with any questions you may have regarding any offers in your country. The main reason we say its only to UK and Ireland is becuase were not able to search all the bookies available in your country.

 

Hope that helps

Thanks

Joe

[Joe Hawes 3]

Just so you all know we now have the forum live on the main site! Our members seem to much prefer it! Much more organised!

Thanks
Joe

[cosmicway 1,333]

Internet bettors are having a rough time in most countries.
In some places all types of betting is illegal. Eg. the Arab world. Did you know that in Dubai where they have the best horse races in the world, the Dubaians are prohibited from placing any bets on their horses ? The Dubai races are offered by the bookmakers for all the world, but not if you are in Dubai !
But I 'm talking of those countries where betting is legal, horses, football down to scratch tickets and yet they operate black lists and impose thieving taxes. It's diabolical.
Ten years ago it was a free for all situation in most of Europe and punters were lulled into a false sense of security.
But a law was needed to protect our freedoms and such a law was not forthcoming. Instead prohibition laws were proposed by the monopolists.
During the days of the world cup of Germany in 2006 I had some bitter clashes with some of the punters who were falsely feeling secure. I said that without some sort of organized protest movement we are in it for the take. Lamentably my warnings came true and the avalanche of prohibitionist laws started in 2008 (with USA-France pulling the strings).
Betfair tried something in the form of protest movement but it petered out.
It's like living in the last chapter of George Orwell's animal farm really and I wish something could happen.

I don't wish for the abolition of law and order, no taxes, no profits for the companies and no listing rights for the governing bodies of the sporting events. I 'm not such a fool. What I 'm asking is the logical application of those and the end of the dictatorial regime we are all finding ourselves in right now.


 

[cosmicway 1,333]

Yes of course Joe.
I never forget you.
I don't have time. One of my major pieces of software is gone -lost the source code- and it really has to be renewed asap.
So you can imagine how preciously little time I have.

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

On 4/11/2016 at 3:40 PM, Joe Hawes said:

Cosmicway have you considered "risking" £1 on our trial to just see for yourself? (which we will refund if you aren't happy with the service)

In the time you have commented about your theories you could have seen how it all works by now and made £hundreds 

 

EPIC WIN ALERT! Congrats to Kevin who is another big winner on our loophole we posted last year, that still works today!

 

Yes of course Joe.
I never forget you.
I don't have time. One of my major pieces of software is gone -lost the source code- and it really has to be renewed asap.
So you can imagine how preciously little time I have.