I agree, Virgin is much better, so much reliable, better tv channels, plus good demand you get on it too, the only bitch thing is you have to pay extra for the skysports but it's worth it. Where as Sky, we have problems with it all the time, at the moment we can't record anything, can't look at information, can't pause live tv or anything. And before this problem came up, our recordings used to fail 50 percent of the time, it's a pain in the arse when you miss an episode of one of your programs such as 'The Walking Dead' for me and then it fails to record. Then they have the audacity to put the price up to 50 pound a month.