JayC

Think I'll give him a miss in my starting fantasy team this year ;p --------------------------------------------------------- But wait. Here's the best part. ...and will have three points put on his driving licence. That's right. Even when breaking the law, Mata wins three points. Lol.

I'm pretty sure Wenger said himself they could afford Rooney, and want him. I think their main target is Suarez now though, but they'd want Rooney too if he did become available. A problem with both moves is Rooney's ego. Will he be happy enough at Arsenal? I doubt they'll be winning a CL anytime soon. Then there is Chelsea - he wouldn't be the best player there and a good chance he will have to compete for a place.

Arsenal?

Without doubt, he kept Everton competitive with very limited resources. Everton remained highly consistent during his tenure, usually improving ever so slightly. It's a hard feat, believe me. His resources were nowhere near what you said by the way. Now if you had said to me: "what has he won, in all those years?" Then you would have some basis for a potential weakness.

I'm not so sure that you need him, but I agree with the rest. I'd prefer he went abroad, but he doesn't have the capability to learn another language quickly.

Of course having SAF helped a lot too, but ultimately it's always the team that makes the biggest impact. They have to go out there and perform, there is no getting away from that. That's all I meant. We still have that important ingredient regardless of manager. Anyway.. drifting off-topic. This is probably for another thread.

I'm not worried. Moyes wasn't my first choice preference admittedly, but I'm far from unhappy with him as manager. Of course it's a step down from what we had, but what wasn't? A lot of non-untied fans are going after this for some reason. It's like they haven't noticed what Moyes has achieved with next to nothing at Everton. Also take into account the vast amount of experience in our team. The team make the biggest impact in football, not the manager.

I think you're forgetting he was pretty much all of that last season and we won the league.

Rofl. I just try to remain unbiased and honest when talking about football. And, if you're buying. ;p

Typical. If a player is going to have the game of his life it will be against us. I'm glad he did though, the 5-5 thriller was the perfect send off for Fergie. Football being played the way it's meant to be. What a game. Lukaku is at the point now though where you either play him or let him flourish elsewhere. It's not fair on him. My bet is on him starting a lot of games next season.

Yeah. I don't have time for games. Our teams shouldn't impact on common decency, or the enjoyment of a conversation.

Yes. My forum profile makes that clear. I see no problem talking with any set of fans. Everyone has been sound so far.

It all helps. Makes me feel a little more at home. Well it might have done if it wasn't a pool blood. ;p

The forum is clearly missing redness. I'm counteracting the clear atrocity.

It's almost as if he has no control over his actions. He thinks it, and then carries it out. He's somebody I'd stay well clear of. We're all guilty of thinking some pretty crazy things at times, but we just don't carry it out. That is the difference between the special ward and a nice warm homely bed.

Thank god. I was starting to think I may be some sort of barbarian.

I'm simply laughing at his toddler mentality. Or his prehistoric sense of a need for meat at an actually insanely random time.

I meant the situation. I was laughing at Suarez acting the clown again. Obviously I was not laughing at the actual attack. He was like fine, challenging for the ball, then suddenly he eyes up Ivanovic's arm, and lunges for a bite... how is that situation not hilarious? Who does that? It's comedy gold. It's a hard one to explain. I'm not laughing at Ivanovic being bitten though, that should be clear.

I just hope he stays in the league.That biting incident was absolutely hilarious. It was better than the game. Obviously I don't condone this conduct, but you have to laugh. He then went on to score the equalizer - you couldn't write it. Also when he ran over and simulated a dive near Moyes after scoring. I laughed for so long. Not to mention he's such an exciting player to watch. Not sure what affect it would have on Arsenal though. They always find a way to screw up.

The biggest hint for me was what SAF said. He knew it wasn't an official transfer request yet he made it known what Rooney had been up to. He knew after that it would be hard for Rooney to recover with the fans. Half of us still hadn't forgiven him for the first time. Then add this, and you have a bad situation. However it isn't a given, since Moyes is now the man to make the decision. I think if SAF had been carrying on he was a goner for sure. Moyes looks like he wants to give him a chance though and that is the most likely for me at the minute simply because of how quiet the Rooney camp is. The manager change might act as a reset for him, but a lot of us won't forget.

It all stemmed from the Real game and his over-bearing self-worth. He assumes he should start every game 'cause his name is Wayne Rooney. If memory serves I think he was going through a tough patch and Fergie simply weighed things up and decided we couldn't afford to give Real the ball needlessly - a Rooney trait. He went for Nani and got the call totally correct. Nani had Madrid worried every time he got the ball. In the end he was the difference. If that incident with the referee didn't happen we would of probably put them out. Why couldn't he accept that? He could of played the next games possibly. Real under Jose were far too devastating on the counter to play both Nani and Rooney. Playing our most explosive player over Rooney was a stroke of genius if it had of played out fairly. There is no 'me' in team. End of the day he's went to see SAF frustrated and said something he didn't mean. I mean look at all the players who have left United. Even Ronaldo hasn't achieved the same level of success. I don't think even Rooney is stupid enough to overlook this. It looks like he's trying to let it all blow over by staying extremely quiet.

Rooney is collecting his rattles and hoping our fans don't boo him off the park next season. This isn't wishful thinking. Rooney lost all of my support in 2010.

It really isn't. If Rooney makes an official transfer request and makes it clear there is no way of a turn-around he will be sold if the right offer comes in. It's completely stupid to keep a player that has no want to be there, not to mention the money we could bring in. If we wait one more year, the price drops, probably quite dramatically. We're a Football Club firstly, but we operate as a business, and keeping him would make no sense from that stand point. The whole 'we want to keep him' is simply a stance made for maximum leverage no matter what the clubs decision is. Nobody even knows if we really want to keep him. There was a meeting quite a while ago, I wonder if it was decided there and then to sell. It's a simple decision if it comes to it.

Best vacate before I get lynched for off-topic comments.

These aren't my opinions. You haven't heard them. I'm very fair when I talk about players, and Mikel is the only highly used midfielder at Chelsea I don't rate. I'm actually probably a bigger fan of Mata than you! ;p Tom Cleverley is more like a locationally challenged Pirlo (without the passing) - He's a squad player at the minute, no more. As for the face... We will all have to wait and see, as he's too dumb to be a midfielder, so needs to wait to try and claim one of the spots at centre-half.