Superblue 6,372 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 As present, I struggle to see how Roman is going to sell the club unless he comes down significantly on his asking price. I believe I read somewhere that shares for Man Utd on the NY stock exchange value the club at around 2bn (not sure if this is £ or $) and there is absolutely no way we can justify being more valuable than United. The stadium is a big issue and whilst the club has become closer to being self sufficient from an accounting perspective, it still hemorrhages cash, hence why Roman has still continued to pump money into the club each year. I can't see how we're that attractive of a buy to people viewing us as an investment, unless someone can get us for closer to £1 - 1.5bn. Maybe it's cynical or maybe I'm completely wide of the mark with my assessment above, but a part of me does wonder whether Roman's asking price is a means to show willingness to sell but knows he is almost certainly not going to get offered that sort of money, and just buys a bit of time for now. Blue Armour and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,216 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, milka said: delete Edited March 3, 2022 by Vesper Romans disciples 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,216 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 17 hours ago, milka said: Part of that graph is wrong. It is 21 trophies total, not 19. They even list all 21, but then post wrong total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Vesper said: Part of that graph is wrong. It is 21 trophies total, not 19. They even list all 21, but then post wrong total. Think they aren't counting CS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Think they aren't counting CS. Don't let Jose know they're doing that! Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,216 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Think they aren't counting CS. they listed it, and it IS a legit trophy, no remotely major (and likely none, period) league or club on the planet doen't count domestic super cups as trophies. Barca, Real, Juve, Bayern, PSG, Inter, AC Milan, AM, Dortmund, etc etc ALL certainly do. The CS is one of the hardest trophies to win, as just to qualify you have to either win the league (by far the hardest domestic league on the planet) or win the FA Cup, the hardest domestic cup to win THEN after all that, you have to (normally, and especially if you did not win the EPL) beat one of the best teams on the planets to win it only people who downplay it are Manure and Pool fanbois, and then only when it comes to us, which is so stupid as we are HORRIFIC in it, (2 wins, 7 losses under Roman) but they hate adding the 2 more (and again, they are legit, they MUST be added) trophies to our totals Edited March 3, 2022 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) Edited March 3, 2022 by Blues Forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,216 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Blues Forever said: I do NOT like consortium owners fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,216 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 29 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Don't let Jose know they're doing that! Mou was right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,944 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Holding off opinions until we hear form this new consortium. The first thing they need to do after taking over is assure supporters that they intend to keep the team competitive at the very highest level. Which means committing to spending money on top class players. Romans disciples 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Vesper said: I do NOT like consortium owners fuck Well then better pray for some Arabs sheikh to outbid them. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,216 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 "No substance" to reports of Ratcliffe bidding for Chelsea, says spokesman https://www.reuters.com/business/no-substance-reports-ratcliffe-bidding-Chelsea-says-spokesman-2022-03-03/ fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,216 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Blues Forever said: Well then better pray for some Arabs sheikh to outbid them. or one of dozens of tech billionaires worth more than Roman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I think Todd being in a group will be good. He loves buying top players and will spend his own money. Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 don't know anything about the swiss geezer but his biblical age and relatively modest wealth are huge turn-offs. Let's hope RA sees straight through this. But ig uess he just wants out at some point. Also about the value disucssion. There is hardly a liquid secondary market for football clubs,so you can't say now way we are worth more than Manutd. The price is whatever RA demands and if he wants 3bn to set off the loans or also make donations to Ukraine, it is his prerogative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 53 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Maybe it's cynical or maybe I'm completely wide of the mark with my assessment above, but a part of me does wonder whether Roman's asking price is a means to show willingness to sell but knows he is almost certainly not going to get offered that sort of money, and just buys a bit of time for now. It's good take and I hope that you're right. I may be dumb and criminally under informed but I don't see why Roman is such a pariah other than that people don't like Chelsea and he's a Russian they've actually heard of. Yes he was allowed to buy state assets at a price which amounted to theft but the guilty one for me is the one who sold the assets. If it can be shown that Roman has been delivering kick-backs, monetary or otherwise, in return for benefitting from the giveaway then he would be corrupt and I would turn against him. I've heard such kick-backs alleged however I've never seen the claims substantiated. Romans disciples and Superblue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Their consortium giving me a bad vibes, seems like bunch of money hungry businessmans. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: don't know anything about the swiss geezer but his biblical age and relatively modest wealth are huge turn-offs. Let's hope RA sees straight through this. But ig uess he just wants out at some point. Also about the value disucssion. There is hardly a liquid secondary market for football clubs,so you can't say now way we are worth more than Manutd. The price is whatever RA demands and if he wants 3bn to set off the loans or also make donations to Ukraine, it is his prerogative. Wyss is not the big player in the group, he just went to Todd Boehly because Todd already offered 3B a couple of years ago to Roman and it was turned down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,216 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 surely some rich as shit (20 billion or more net worth) person sees this as huge bargain buy Roman is NOT demanding payment back of the £1.5 billion in loans (per his official statement, which is fairly binding) the only truly global European clubs are the big 15 Real Barca AM PSG Bayern Dortmund Juve AC Milan Inter Milan Chelsea Manure Pool Citeh Arsenal Spuds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,077 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: don't know anything about the swiss geezer but his biblical age and relatively modest wealth are huge turn-offs. And his lack of interest in football. We've had an owner with a football fan's dream approach to running the club. Whatever we get now must be less and is going to feel awful. We've lived with less before however so, even if it might feel like the end of the world, it really won't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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