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I know load of our fans hate him,but he brought us to the UCL final.We did have Steve Clarke too but surely Grant had a say considering he was the manager.When i remember 2008 we could have won the treble :lol: runner's up in UCl,the Premiership and Carling Cup if we did win all those people would think of him as a Legend.I like him but i also don't think he would suit the job well.

I want Zola really bad

Sad thing is we blew the chance of the quad that season and i know its a cliche but i honestly reckon we would have won the lot have if Jose stayed.

Carling Cup - Grant persisted with a off form Anelka instead off a in form Joe Cole, he lost us that match. With Jose we would have won the game and also picked Bridge over Cole and he cost us the pen.

FA Cup - United, Arsenal and Liverpool were all out, Pompey, West Brom and Cardiff were the teams left we beat Barnsley the FA Cup is in our hands, oppsssss.

Champions League - Ferdinand was limping and struggling but Grant still told Drogba to stick with Vidic who was beating him to every ball.

Premier League - Why take Essien off over Belleti when were 1-0 up with 5 minutes left? we conceded 5 stoppage time levellers that season under Grant, he has to take some responsibility for that, without those 5 we would have got 95 points, matching our 04/05 total.

Our team peaked in 07-08 and 08-09 and if we just fucking kept Jose and didnt piss about with Avram and Scolari the sky would have been the limit.

What ever way you look at it we were in a glorious position for all 4 trophies that season yet we ended up with none, Grant has to take some of the blame for that.

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The jury is still out on Grant

He's had two teams relegated in two years, and I personally believe the only reason for his success at Chelsea was the form of Lampard, Ballack, Cole and Drogba in the second half of the season, and the support of Steve Clark and Henk ten Cate.Yes, he got us to our first and only Champions League final and I will always respect that, but how much of it was his responsibility? He's even admitted to taking a back seat during training and letting his assistants take charge. His success was based on the form of a handful of players and the backing of two very capable tacticians and man-motivators in Clarke and ten Cate. Obviously as the manager he would have had some input, but I'll never be sure about him. I really do think our near-Treble that season was down to Clarke moreso than Grant, but either way, he's still part of this club's history.

History. Not the future. We can do far better.

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The jury is still out on Grant

He's had two teams relegated in two years, and I personally believe the only reason for his success at Chelsea was the form of Lampard, Ballack, Cole and Drogba in the second half of the season, and the support of Steve Clark and Henk ten Cate.Yes, he got us to our first and only Champions League final and I will always respect that, but how much of it was his responsibility? He's even admitted to taking a back seat during training and letting his assistants take charge. His success was based on the form of a handful of players and the backing of two very capable tacticians and man-motivators in Clarke and ten Cate. Obviously as the manager he would have had some input, but I'll never be sure about him. I really do think our near-Treble that season was down to Clarke moreso than Grant, but either way, he's still part of this club's history.

History. Not the future. We can do far better.

And considering the squad of West Ham, any decent manager could've secured survival.

Parker, Nouble, Ba, Obinnah, Cole ect. They're by no means bad players, They could've finished well beyond relegation.

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Sad thing is we blew the chance of the quad that season and i know its a cliche but i honestly reckon we would have won the lot have if Jose stayed.

Carling Cup - Grant persisted with a off form Anelka instead off a in form Joe Cole, he lost us that match. With Jose we would have won the game and also picked Bridge over Cole and he cost us the pen.

FA Cup - United, Arsenal and Liverpool were all out, Pompey, West Brom and Cardiff were the teams left we beat Barnsley the FA Cup is in our hands, oppsssss.

Champions League - Ferdinand was limping and struggling but Grant still told Drogba to stick with Vidic who was beating him to every ball.

Premier League - Why take Essien off over Belleti when were 1-0 up with 5 minutes left? we conceded 5 stoppage time levellers that season under Grant, he has to take some responsibility for that, without those 5 we would have got 95 points, matching our 04/05 total.

Our team peaked in 07-08 and 08-09 and if we just fucking kept Jose and didnt piss about with Avram and Scolari the sky would have been the limit.

What ever way you look at it we were in a glorious position for all 4 trophies that season yet we ended up with none, Grant has to take some of the blame for that.

in the final if he had brought sheve on instead of Anelka ...he would have been a penalty taker instead of JT...my bet ..we would have won

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Absolutely.

I'm still shocked West Ham have done down, after the signings they made in the summer I expected them to finish mid-table, quite comfortably as well. Shows one of two things - either this league is becoming more and more unpredictable, or Grant is a shite manager.

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Avram Grants 2008 silver medal specialists, who incidentally got knocked out of the FA Cup against Barnsley in the quarter final, would've been Jose's gold medalists if he stayed. He just took on what Jose left off but managed them slightly worse. We were on for history that season but 2008 will remain the most gutting season of my life supporting the Chels. And in the CC Final we lost it to Tottenham! and tbh we were battered throughout the whole game. We woulda won the lot if he kept Jose, i believe that.

If Grant goes up stairs, good luck to him as long as he dont ever go back on the touchline for us. Hide him away

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Absolutely.

I'm still shocked West Ham have done down, after the signings they made in the summer I expected them to finish mid-table, quite comfortably as well. Shows one of two things - either this league is becoming more and more unpredictable, or Grant is a shite manager.

I've just been thinking, if Avram gets 2 teams who should be mid table relegated after getting us to the CL final and within 2 points off the league that must mean Sam Allardyce's (who has finished in the top half with weaker teams than the one's Avram have got relegated) claim that he would win the double at a top club everytime aint as far fetched as people make out??whistling.gif

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Sad thing is we blew the chance of the quad that season and i know its a cliche but i honestly reckon we would have won the lot have if Jose stayed.

Carling Cup - Grant persisted with a off form Anelka instead off a in form Joe Cole, he lost us that match. With Jose we would have won the game and also picked Bridge over Cole and he cost us the pen.

FA Cup - United, Arsenal and Liverpool were all out, Pompey, West Brom and Cardiff were the teams left we beat Barnsley the FA Cup is in our hands, oppsssss.

Champions League - Ferdinand was limping and struggling but Grant still told Drogba to stick with Vidic who was beating him to every ball.

Premier League - Why take Essien off over Belleti when were 1-0 up with 5 minutes left? we conceded 5 stoppage time levellers that season under Grant, he has to take some responsibility for that, without those 5 we would have got 95 points, matching our 04/05 total.

Our team peaked in 07-08 and 08-09 and if we just fucking kept Jose and didnt piss about with Avram and Scolari the sky would have been the limit.

What ever way you look at it we were in a glorious position for all 4 trophies that season yet we ended up with none, Grant has to take some of the blame for that.

This is unfair.

We can also do this for Ancelotti this season. Yet we'd get called plastic :lol:

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This is unfair.

We can also do this for Ancelotti this season. Yet we'd get called plastic :lol:

No way were we in that good a position this season than we were then, plus the team IMO was at their peak under Avram and it aint this season.

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Avran Grant should never have left. Roman is an idiot !!!

Well he did bought Anelka and Ivan. And those have been really great buys.

Especially Ivan.

So i do have to agree, he does knows what to look for.

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