The English Football Thread

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typical pool vermin

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On 21/10/2020 at 5:09 PM, Atomiswave said:

typical pool vermin

verminpool

 

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As if we needed any more reasons to hate Manure and Arse

The Glazers (most of them, Avram gives to the Dems) and the Kroenkes (mostly) have given millions to Trump and the white nationalist Republicans, arrrffff

Victimpool gets a pass here, as FSG is the reverse, they support the progressives and anti-racists

I REALLY have issues that the EPL, who are all about anti-racism, allows these scum to own teams in England, yet give shedloads of cash to outright viscous racists

 

https://theathletic.com/2151602/2020/10/22/us-election-trump-biden-glazer-kroenke-blitzer-harris-edens-tripp/

As for his politics, James Montague’s The Billionaires Club notes that Kroenke “has personally donated close to $300,000, overwhelmingly to Republican campaigns, between 2000 and 2013”.

In 2016 he donated $33,400 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee, the organisation working to elect Republican candidates to the US Senate. However, he did also donate large sums to Democratic candidates, including $100,000 to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

One Kroenke donation stands out from the rest, though. Following Donald Trump’s shock win four years ago, the Arsenal owner donated $1,000,000 to the Presidential Inaugural Committee.

 

Manchester United

Trump’s son Barron has been photographed in an Arsenal kit but, asked if he shares his son’s footballing allegiance during an interview with ITV’s Piers Morgan in 2018, the president said, “not particularly no — I have a friend who owns Manchester United.”

Trump was referring to Ed Glazer, who donated more than $98,000 to Trump’s campaign in 2016 and gave a quarter of a million dollars to the president’s inauguration committee. (He also gave $5,200 to Hillary Clinton’s campaign, on the same day he donated $33,400 to the Republican National Committee.)

Since then, Glazer has stepped up his support even further, splashing out almost $400,000 on Trump and campaigns backing other Republicans over the last two years.

He also hosted a big fundraising dinner for Trump in 2018, with the most expensive tickets reportedly costing $250,000.

His brothers Bryan and Joel have also donated generously to Republicans in recent years, though mostly to Florida campaigns rather than national ones.

 

AC Milan too......... (I knew this already, Paul Singer is pure vermin, and I have mentioned it in the past here)

 

One of the big recent changes in Italian football has been a big injection of American cash.

In 2018 AC Milan were bought by the Elliott Management Corporation, and its founder Paul Singer has donated huge sums of money to Republican campaigns over the years, more than any Premier League owner. The total runs to several millions, including $1,000,000 to Romney’s 2012 presidential run and $1,000,000 to Trump’s inauguration committee.

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David Squires on … a tale of two Jordans and rough justice on Merseyside

Our cartoonist looks back on a wild derby, unwanted workplace interactions and 57-year-old men dancing in empty stadiums

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2020/oct/20/david-squires-on-a-tale-of-two-jordans-and-rough-justice-on-merseyside

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2020-21 English Premier League

Aston Villa    
Leeds United

http://www.sportnews.to/sports/2020/premier-league-aston-villa-vs-leeds-united-s1/

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On 20/10/2020 at 6:51 PM, NikkiCFC said:

As a football fan I would support European Super League of 16 teams playing league system. 30 games. We would also play, more money and for us fans it would be great, every other week we would have top games with best teams.

What is the point of group system in CL? Who wants to watch Krasnodar, Kiev, Ferencvaros, Brugge, Istanbul? Plus knockout system, luck is big part and stupid away goal rule.

Ofc I do not want any team to have privilege and all teams should be equal so cannot see Utd and Pool having monopoly.

Imagine league with: Real, Barca, Atletico, UTD, City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Juve, Inter, Milan, Bayern, Dortmund, PSG, Spurs and two more teams maybe Lazio, Napoli, Arse, Sevilla... What is there not to like?

CL is really getting boring, every year is the same. I cannot see any negative arguments about this new league.

 

Totally against it.

The Champions League is the CL for a reason. Teams who win the league all across Europe should be in it automatically. Even if they are smaller clubs or not as financially stable as others or whatever. It will be the European Super League then after however many years it won't be long before the top 6 or 8 PL teams want to go their own way as well and you lose them from the PL. It would kill football.

Yes it guarantees bigger games but as I said in another thread, with regards to the likes of Celtic, Ajax, teams who win titles and are historically huge clubs, they already have to do the CL qualifiers when they've won the titles which is an instant disadvantage so you take these bigger clubs aside like the top 4 in the PL, Bundesliga, Serie A etc your taking them out and killing these clubs without the huge financial backing. 

As someone who has gone to Celtic games regularly during my time studying over the last few years, on the CL nights there really isn't many places better, its an amazing atmosphere and they make a killing off these games financially. Ajax would be the same, the CL money helps them. As would the likes of Kiev, Brugge, the Turkish teams etc. its not fair enough as it is and a European Super League would be even more unfair on these clubs who need CL or the exposure helps them with players that have a stage to show themselves on at a higher level and can secure big moves. For instance the likes of Victor Wanyama, Fraser Forster and Virgil van Dijk would probably never have made it to the PL if they hadn't had European football at Celtic because people frown upon the standard of the SPL. Same with Ziyech, Milik, Eriksen, Sneidjer, de Jong, de Light, Huntelaar, Lozano, Van der Vaart, Depay, van der Beek among countless other guys from Ajax and PSV, they would never have had the opportunity to have made these bigger moves that they have made because people probably think the Dutch league isn't that great either but they had exposure in the CL or Europa League and whatever and probably people would of maybe thought a bit more of them as they would have featured in bigger games.

Its the same with project big picture or whatever Liverpool and United were reportedly trying to push. All its doing is making the rich richer and killing these clubs who don't have the same backing etc, would make the divide already so much bigger than it is already. If people want this at the expense of killing football, yes fair enough but it would be totally different if we were a championship club or say in the Dutch League or Scottish League or Turkish league etc. Even more so now with the COVID scenario, a lot of clubs are probably lucky they are managing to function in the lower leagues and really, instead of making the gap bigger between top to bottom, they should be looking at helping these teams maintain their status and also try and create a much better standard throughout as opposed to let money dictate football as usual, I know footballs a business but it is getting ridiculous. If the Super League does happen, I will be disappointed because as an whole UEFA will again be showing that they do not actually care about the majority of the clubs which they are bodying but only the elite/financially well of ones. 

I think as well the likes of us or Spurs or these teams who aren't as good as a Liverpool or a City etc, we will find out very quickly that our standard isn't necessary as good as many think and that's why having the PL and the CL is great, because you play a variety of teams, in a variety of places. It allows fans of the club in other places as well to get to games more accessible to them too as you've probably seen there are folk on here from all walks of life and all over the world.

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Leeds are an absolute joy to watch atm

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Leeds are playing so well right now, the press, the way they break and how they actually play is refreshing.

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16 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said:

Leeds are an absolute joy to watch atm

 

6 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Leeds are playing so well right now, the press, the way they break and how they actually play is refreshing.

In terms of their squad, they don't have any real top quality players bar Rodrigo Moreno arguably although they have got some other good players but the fact they are playing so well and in this style, it shows the value of having an excellent coach who everyone buys into, this style like Rodgers at Swansea clearly helps them and has improved them.

Jack Grealish and Barkley looking pretty quiet. Grealish had maybe one decent moment but has to do more to get into the game although Leeds are doing very well in getting men close to him when he receives it. Its okay doing it v Liverpool in a freak game and then having a few moments v Leicester but to make the next jump up he has to do it week in week out against all teams. 

Harrison looking a very decent player also for Leeds in the few games I've seen him. I know hes on loan from Man City and thats not his level but capable of being a good mid table player more than likely.

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lol, Bamford tracking to 28 league goals

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35 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said:

Leeds are an absolute joy to watch atm

absolute, and Villa are a good watch too

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hell no!

what a goal

Bamford on a hat trick

 

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he has 5 league goals in 5 games

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he has 5 league goals in 5 games

Chelsea Youth product, even though I never rated him[emoji7]

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22 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

 

In terms of their squad, they don't have any real top quality players bar Rodrigo Moreno arguably although they have got some other good players but the fact they are playing so well and in this style, it shows the value of having an excellent coach who everyone buys into, this style like Rodgers at Swansea clearly helps them and has improved them.

Jack Grealish and Barkley looking pretty quiet. Grealish had maybe one decent moment but has to do more to get into the game although Leeds are doing very well in getting men close to him when he receives it. Its okay doing it v Liverpool in a freak game and then having a few moments v Leicester but to make the next jump up he has to do it week in week out against all teams. 

Harrison looking a very decent player also for Leeds in the few games I've seen him. I know hes on loan from Man City and thats not his level but capable of being a good mid table player more than likely.

I loooove Ayling too

what a warrior

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Bielsa is a god.

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30 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Leeds are playing so well right now, the press, the way they break and how they actually play is refreshing.

Because of Bielsa. 

Sigh, I remember wanting Bielsa ages ago. Way back before getting Mourinho mark 2 but not many people in this fourm knew him because they ddin't follow his work in South America. 

But yeah Bielsa was the teacher of Pochetino and Pep. 

The only problem is that Bielsa can be crazy like Mournho and Conte are lol. 

And not to mention that his futbol is so demanding that players are dead after season 2 or 3. 

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Little Paddy Bamford is finally coming good. He was always a talented striker, really happy for him he can perform in the PL now. Still no regrets about selling him. He is 27 now and took ages to become consistent.