Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 To be fair, most of what is wrong with United is not Moyes' fault... CHOULO19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Fergie jumped ship at the right moment...they were poor last season.Van Persie kept they going really.That and every other team were worse zolayes, CHOULO19 and Reddish-Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 To be fair, most of what is wrong with United is not Moyes' fault...Their squad has been average for two and half seasons, now. Fergie knew what he was doing by retiring last season. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Exactly he made them look/play decent but only so long that could last for.Even if he was here this season wouldnt think they'd been much better.A few less losses maybe but probably not running away at the top not with other teams in form this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Their squad has been average for two and half seasons, now. Fergie knew what he was doing by retiring last season. Definitely, which only adds to his brilliancy!Fergie was a genius. I absolutely hate him, but the man has a tremendous timing.He knew exactly when he had to do what. He knew he wasnt able to renew his squad and that his era was coming to an end, so he invested in a last hurrah (aka. RVP) to retire in style!Also, dont go thinking he is sad by how Moyes and ManUtd are doing. SAF is perfectly happy to see people pleaing for his return... CHOULO19 and Laylabelle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 To be fair, most of what is wrong with United is not Moyes' fault...but he was too dumb to realise what would happen ,,,,should have waited till some other poor sod paid for Fergies conniving CHOULO19, Rmpr, Reddish-Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Their squad has been average for two and half seasons, now. Fergie knew what he was doing by retiring last season. Exactly what my mum was saying earlier lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 but he was too dumb to realise what would happen ,,,,should have waited till some other poor sod paid for Fergies connivingI couldnt agree more!Moyes got too greedy by Ferguson's offer just because it was Manure. He didnt thought it through before accepting the job!If he had look into their squad, he would have seen they have way too many holes to fight for trophies. Their defense is beyond old, they have only one great CM (Carrick), not many AM options and RVP isnt the same player as before. Add that the fact they werent predicting to spend in the transfer window and they had the perfect scenario to fail!Worse, they came out of a winning season and the expectations would surely be high...Moyes was really stupid to accept the job without calming the fans down. He should have come in his first press conference and clearly state that this would be a transiton period after SAF and that the club, media and supporters would have to be patient... zolayes and Laylabelle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Exactly what my mum was saying earlier lol.Well your mum sounds like she knows what she's talking about, then! Laylabelle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I couldnt agree more!Moyes got too greedy by Ferguson's offer just because it was Manure. He didnt thought it through before accepting the job!If he had look into their squad, he would have seen they have way too many holes to fight for trophies. Their defense is beyond old, they have only one great CM (Carrick), not many AM options and RVP isnt the same player as before. Add that the fact they werent predicting to spend in the transfer window and they had the perfect scenario to fail!Worse, they came out of a winning season and the expectations would surely be high...Moyes was really stupid to accept the job without calming the fans down. He should have come in his first press conference and clearly state that this would be a transiton period after SAF and that the club, media and supporters would have to be patient...Yeah it didnt seem a case of 'ahh he'll be the next Fergie!We'll go far.Not much will change' sorta thing.Now they seem in panic and beginning to accept that far from it.He/they have had moments where they've looked like a pretty good side but seems to be a one off occasion rather then them on a good run.Yeah they gave Fergie time when he started but their fans are right in saying that was a whole different situation..They kept Rooney which has been their saving grace so far.... Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 United can still win the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 United can still win the league.Sunderland can still win the league ,,, BUT Im not backing them Henrique, Ainsley Harriott, iceboy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 United can still win the league.Honduras can win the 2014 World Cup. Ainsley Harriott and Henrique 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I realized that this Bony guys is really good, and I think it all comes to how bad is Chelsea approach on the market. Swansea got him for 10 or 12m last summer. Even for (then) raw players like Lukaku, Chelsea is paying 18m. I mean, Lukaku will be great (or already is), but you just paid 18m for a player that had to spend 3 seasons playing for other clubs until he is considered a finished product.For me this king of gamble is not worth the price. Lukaku right now is scoring goals and playing great, but he could easily be an average kind of striker too, who knows? When he was signed, the kid was, lets say, far from a good striker.Chelsea should be investing in players like Suarez or Bony, they were a bargain in terms of instant success, but this is a club that just paid 50m for Torres, so perhaps what Im asking is a little bit too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Honduras can win the 2014 World Cup.England can win the Ashes ,,,,oops that was being said before Xmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Be a massive implode on every above them part if they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Honduras can win the 2014 World Cup.I dont think so, Mourinho told us that United can still win the league, so that must be true. I Mourinho we trust. Did he say the same about Honduras prospects for WC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I realized that this Bony guys is really good, and I think it all comes to how bad is Chelsea approach on the market. Swansea got him for 10 or 12m last summer. Even for (then) raw players like Lukaku, Chelsea is paying 18m. I mean, Lukaku will be great (or already is), but you just paid 18m for a player that had to spend 3 seasons playing for other clubs until he is considered a finished product.For me this king of gamble is not worth the price. Lukaku right now is scoring goals and playing great, but he could easily be an average kind of striker too, who knows? When he was signed, the kid was, lets say, far from a good striker.Chelsea should be investing in players like Suarez or Bony, they were a bargain in terms of instant success, but this is a club that just paid 50m for Torres, so perhaps what Im asking is a little bit too much.You can't really compare Bony and Lukaku...because Bony is 25 years old and he's mature enough to lead the line for most european clubs..As for Lukaku, he's only 20 years old and he was always going to be a long term projectI do agree that Chelsea should be investing into players that provide instant success...but whenever we try to sign those players, we get ripped off in terms of transfer price Henrique and Ainsley Harriott 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Partridge 1,124 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Not the best United team he inherited but they should be doing better.7th in the table and a manager no one knows much about in Europe, they are going to struggle to sign players. They may have to splash the cash in the summer, especially if they have no CL next season. I thought we had it pretty bad but they need a massive clear out. The average players are starting to show now Fergie has gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 RVP had one great injury free season at Arsenal and one at Manure ,,,now the injuries are back ,, Manure must be VERY worried ,,,I.m just having a HAPPY NEW YEAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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