The English Football Thread

[bushman 2,043]

I was happy for Cardiff, last night. Nothing pleases me more than seeing Manures drop points. Despicable club, players, just made my day. Hopefully, on Wednesday, Manures get clobbered in CL too.

[Tomo 21,733]

oh come on!!! what wrong did moyes do today??? waht does he do if his team cant defend a set-piece or if rooney cant put the ball in the back of the net 10 seconds after cardiff equalized.

It was more after the match when he said he would have took a point before the match.

This is not just the Champions this is a side that have won 5 out off the last 7 titles and missed out on 1 of the other 2 on goal difference, and Moyes is happy with a point at Cardiff?

It's just like Roy when he was at Liverpool, they came from a club that have a "that will do" mentality and he can't shake it off, luckily for Moyes, his team is 100 times better than the one Roy had at Liverpool, which is getting him a few extra results, other than that the comparison between the two are actually so obvious.

[Special Juan 27,424]

Wonder with all these shit ref performances the FA will act on their refs and punish them from not doing their properly.

Awful weekend for refs.

[bushman 2,043]

After I read, the Clueless One statements in the media, that´s what ticks me off. Of course, he is not responsible for the Shrek´s inability to score at the end. The Clueless One, just last week said, Manures are back, on the roll, challenging for the PL title...

today, Manures are back in for the relegation battle, lol.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

Wonder with all these shit ref performances the FA will act on their refs and punish them from not doing their properly.

Awful weekend for refs.

I consider it "normal" weekend. EPL's referees have been awful for a long long time, definitely one of the worst among all top tier professional football leagues.

[The_Flash 1,144]

moyes did not bring in fellaini. he wanted ander herrera and it was the united cheifs which spoilt the whole deal with some stupid money dealing thing. in their desperation for a mid-fielder, moyes went with the safest option he could think of anf that was FELLAINI as moyes has alreasy played with him and knows the guy.

united the champions cant defend since they conceded 3-4 goals to reading and were generally outscoring teams rather than keeping clean sheets even in the last season. u should really know what u r speaking about before just going on about it.

as for today, united have a big injury problem. they do not have carrick and fletcher thru injury. jones and vidic too have niggles. same with rafael. he put in a most obvious team that was possible and that team was winning until the last minute of the normal time. dont see how all this points out as moyes and me being deluded. rather things point otherwise.

OF COURSE HE PICKED FELLANI.

Noone at Man Utd would ever have picked someone so sh**. He is never a Utd player. Moyes was going on and on about him before he came to Utd, he wanted him, he thinks he is great. He is bloody awful, but Moyes can't see a decent player for ****.

He even had to pay MORE for him than RVP, what a joke.

Yes he wanted those people but why suddenly such a huge club as Utd, couldn't get ANYONE else but he is no draw. In a matter of weeks all the respect and ethos that Utd had, he had embarrassed it.

Believe what you want , that is the truth. I tell you had Fergie still be there, Ronaldo would have been at Old Trafford right now.

[bushman 2,043]

if the refs are so pathetic as seen every weekend, why doesn´t FA do something about it ?

Is it hard to find 10 refs competent to do a job in UK ?

[The_Flash 1,144]

if the refs are so pathetic as seen every weekend, why doesn´t FA do something about it ?

Is it hard to find 10 refs competent to do a job in UK ?

Exactly I have thought that for many years. I don't know why they never do anything. So many public bad decisions, causing injuries, relegation, loss of points, trophies, lol

If they got fined or banned like players and managers they would so blatantly cheat.

[bushman 2,043]

Exactly I have thought that for many years. I don't know why they never do anything. So many public bad decisions, causing injuries, relegation, loss of points, trophies, lol

If they got fined or banned like players and managers they would so blatantly cheat.

Since I do not consider myself an expert on refereeing, but I can see so many mistakes being done weekly, I too wonder what´s the hold up here ? The tech is available, but replays are not used.., to rely on the ref only, it just does not work well. The side ref picks his nose, most of the times = unreliable too.

England as the country with so advanced in tech & is not willing to utilize it ? Something is fishy here, I feel.

[didierforever 7,349]

OF COURSE HE PICKED FELLANI.

Noone at Man Utd would ever have picked someone so sh**. He is never a Utd player. Moyes was going on and on about him before he came to Utd, he wanted him, he thinks he is great. He is bloody awful, but Moyes can't see a decent player for ****.

He even had to pay MORE for him than RVP, what a joke.

Yes he wanted those people but why suddenly such a huge club as Utd, couldn't get ANYONE else but he is no draw. In a matter of weeks all the respect and ethos that Utd had, he had embarrassed it.

Believe what you want , that is the truth. I tell you had Fergie still be there, Ronaldo would have been at Old Trafford right now.

since u will conveniently ignore, the facts about herrera and when united actually bought fellaini, i wont bother to go into it.

we paid MORE, infact double for torres than RVP. what a joke. mistakes can and will happen.

he would have been able to get players if he had splashed money. but what u have so easily ignored is that moyes has been given the assurance of time. in his first matches he tried and tested all the players of the united squad and since then players like anderson,young, nani,fabio, buttner, have been considered deadwood by him. he just dint want to overhaul the whole squad as soon as he came in. he gave these players their chances and now will make his move. on the other hand, even some1 like SAF was not able to pull players like OSCAR, HAZARD, MOURA and they were taken from right under his nose.

i believe he is a decent man and a decent manager. to compare him to SAF is unfair. infact to compare any manager to SAF is unfair.

[bushman 2,043]

Was red nosed the God, then ?

Since we shouldn´t compare him to anyone ?

How many years we have seen manures getting all the advantages under him ? The right calls, the right schedules...etc.

No one can or should doubt red nosed as the most successful manager, but this man was there for years.

[Special Juan 27,424]

What was more suspicious about the whole United thing was how the refs who Fergie didn't like always never reffed a United game.

[bushman 2,043]

There you go. Red nosed influenced the FA, then.

Just read some those passages from his shitty book. Red nosed must have been drinking when he wrote the book.

[didierforever 7,349]

Was red nosed the God, then ?

Since we shouldn´t compare him to anyone ?

How many years we have seen manures getting all the advantages under him ? The right calls, the right schedules...etc.

No one can or should doubt red nosed as the most successful manager, but this man was there for years.

precisely. SAF was there for years. yet he dint win anything for his first 4 years but people are already ridiculing moyes after 4 months.

united have had a tough fixture and to be honest how many of us actually thought that united have a PL winning squad compared to squads like ours or city's? it was SAF's genius that made them a PL winning squad. nothing else. right now they should be fighting for a CL spot and by the looks of it that is what they are doing.

[bushman 2,043]

precisely. SAF was there for years. yet he dint win anything for his first 4 years but people are already ridiculing moyes after 4 months.

united have had a tough fixture and to be honest how many of us actually thought that united have a PL winning squad compared to squads like ours or city's? it was SAF's genius that made them a PL winning squad. nothing else. right now they should be fighting for a CL spot and by the looks of it that is what they are doing.

Well, Manures had a tough fixture, I read. Fuck them & how tough was it ? All I read the champions here, there & suddenly the Clueless One comes on board & manures are not capable to beat anyone. These cunts just got lucky in 3 games.

What actually changed in their squad since last year ? Did anyone leave ? No, no one. They bought that hairy clown too.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

precisely. SAF was there for years. yet he dint win anything for his first 4 years but people are already ridiculing moyes after 4 months.

united have had a tough fixture and to be honest how many of us actually thought that united have a PL winning squad compared to squads like ours or city's? it was SAF's genius that made them a PL winning squad. nothing else. right now they should be fighting for a CL spot and by the looks of it that is what they are doing.

precisely. SAF was there for years. yet he dint win anything for his first 4 years but people are already ridiculing moyes after 4 months.

united have had a tough fixture and to be honest how many of us actually thought that united have a PL winning squad compared to squads like ours or city's? it was SAF's genius that made them a PL winning squad. nothing else. right now they should be fighting for a CL spot and by the looks of it that is what they are doing.

Pretty sure they aint gona make the top 4 with this kinda form.

The winter transfer window is going to be their most vital period. Make or break. Still, the purchases need to work post January.

Otherwise, its going to be......

[The_Flash 1,144]

since u will conveniently ignore, the facts about herrera and when united actually bought fellaini, i wont bother to go into it.

we paid MORE, infact double for torres than RVP. what a joke. mistakes can and will happen.

he would have been able to get players if he had splashed money. but what u have so easily ignored is that moyes has been given the assurance of time. in his first matches he tried and tested all the players of the united squad and since then players like anderson,young, nani,fabio, buttner, have been considered deadwood by him. he just dint want to overhaul the whole squad as soon as he came in. he gave these players their chances and now will make his move. on the other hand, even some1 like SAF was not able to pull players like OSCAR, HAZARD, MOURA and they were taken from right under his nose.

i believe he is a decent man and a decent manager. to compare him to SAF is unfair. infact to compare any manager to SAF is unfair.

You just showed you don't even READ what I am writing so it's is extremely tedious even discussing it with you but I would like to point out if you can bother to actually read what I am saying instead of rambling on.

Ferguson has got some of the best players in the world and it was not a comparison it was fact, if Fergie was there Ronaldo would have been back at OT.

Moyes is NOT a decent manager, he has done nothing of merit. You don't know him personally so can't say he is a decent man, suing a kid for some rubbish in an autobiography isn't very decent to me??

Don't you think for one second he wasn't given the opportunity to splash the cash they were supposed to have bid 100m for Bale, he has all the money and everything at his disposal.

MOYES IS WHY NOONE CAME!!!!

God even Baines didn't want to go, he was probably happy to see the back of him.

I really dont care about him, I have family members who have supported Utd for a long time and are sad such a inadequate person was chosen to manage such a big club.

You like him good for you

Funny how you slag Torres a quality player but big up a pathetic manager .

Each to their own.

[didierforever 7,349]

Well, Manures had a tough fixture, I read. Fuck them & how tough was it ? All I read the champions here, there & suddenly the Clueless One comes on board & manures are not capable to beat anyone. These cunts just got lucky in 3 games.

What actually changed in their squad since last year ? Did anyone leave ? No, no one. They bought that hairy clown too.

manu had pool (a), city (a), chelsea(h) in their first 5 fixtures. tell me thats not tough.

their squad last year was as bad as this year's. at the start of the last season, no one gave them a chance to win the PL. it was SAF that made them a champion. united's real "class" of the squad can be understood by their performances in the CL where the shitty nature of their squad left them horribly exposed.