The English Football Thread

[Jase 43,479]

Great result for us. We play Arsenal next weekend at the Emirates. Dreading that game! And Manchester City travel to Craven Cottage.

[Milan 17,865]

Shelvey's red card is likely to divide opinion, with Evans also appearing to take his feet off the ground as the two players collided, but Ferguson believes referee Mark Halsey was left with little option.

"I thought it was a clear red card," he added. "Jonny Evans went for the ball, got the ball and the boy has gone in really dangerously.

"I don't think there was any other decision the referee could have given."

He added of Evans: "He went for the ball, he got the ball. That's the important thing. Their boy didn't even attempt to go for the ball."

Shelvey had some angry words for Ferguson as he left the pitch and headed down the tunnel.

"He was trying to blame me I suppose," said the manager.

"He can apologise if he likes. He should do that, he's responsible for his own actions, there's no question about that."

United's penalty came after Antonio Valencia went down in the box following a Glen Johnson tackle and Ferguson added: "I haven't seen it. I couldn't see.

"Certainly he was in a shooting position. I thought it he should have squared it to Robin van Persie or Ryan Giggs but he took the decision to shoot himself and he was probably brought down. I'm not sure."

Ferdie just being Fergie.

[Hutcho 8,443]

Ferdie just being Fergie.

Yep and Shelvey actually got the whole ball as well and just went through afterwords.

[Laylabelle 9,396]

Bleh way Arsenal are playing they do look like they havent a decent shot for now anyway.win against us next week be only a point behind...heres hoping we can get our act together!

[edetarod 2,155]

can't see us beating them TBH

[Naked Mole Rat 437]

Ferdie just being Fergie.

He's so childish it makes me sick sometimes. You'd expect him to act more maturely since he's in his 70's and has been knighted and all, but no. He overreacts to everything that he feels is unfair to his team and plays dumb when his team is under scrutiny.

[bloody 209]

He's so childish it makes me sick sometimes. You'd expect him to act more maturely since he's in his 70's and has been knighted and all, but no. He overreacts to everything that he feels is unfair to his team and plays dumb when his team is under scrutiny.

oh, the irony.

[DONI. 1,291]

[Jase 43,479]

Oh the inconsistency of referees. Pathetic! If that was a penalty, then we should have gotten one last weekend against QPR when Hazard was fouled from behind by SWP.

[HRiver 1,512]

Nani, Young, Valencia - world class divers.

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

It's just a shame how much Utd always got the ref on their side in the crucial fixture. Neither was Shelvey a red nor this a penalty. This club probably would be relegated if there wasn't something odd in most of their matches

[bababoom 4,478]

That was a penalty, look at the other angle, Johnson clips his foot and also slightly pushes him.

[Ollie 4,400]

I was so gutted when Arsenal banged in that equaliser, it just gave me that sickening feeling regardless of making City drop 2 more points. Been a pretty good weekend though.

[Kieran. 6,317]

I was so gutted when Arsenal banged in that equaliser, it just gave me that sickening feeling regardless of making City drop 2 more points. Been a pretty good weekend though.

Hm, interesting. I celebrated it.

[NiclasCFC 2,582]

Guys am i the only one who is creeped out?

In today's game (liverpool vs man utd) :

shelvey was sent off at 38:58 (38+58=96)

gerrard scored at 45:51(45+51=96)

rafael scored at 51:45(51+45=96)

rvp scored at 80:16(80+16=96)

THAT'S NOT A SIMPLE COINCIDENCE !

THAT'S A MESSAGE FROM THEM :')

justice for the 96 :'D

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Nani, Young, Valencia - world class divers.

We can't complain about other teams diving since we've doing a lot of that ourselves lately.

[Kojo 4,676]

Spurs were lucky with that own goal, QPR played well.

[robdog 2,084]

Nani, Young, Valencia - world class divers.

You forgot Welbeck