The English Football Thread

[Vytis33 1,144]

And here’s another guy to investigate while you’re at it…

 

[DDA 9,690]

34 minutes ago, Vytis33 said:

This should be interesting…

 

 

Because of this …

https://x.com/Josh97LFC/status/1855968991119872392

 

 

Edited November 11 by DDA

[NikkiCFC 7,946]

Even though I agree with him how stupid you have to be?

[Fulham Broadway 16,838]

Top Man 

''Klopps a cunt, Liverpool is full of fucking bell ends and we fucking hate scousers''

Refereeing body PGMOL says the suspension comes into force with immediate effect and is pending a full investigation. Spoilsports

[Fulham Broadway 16,838]

Oh dear, Coote is filmed snorting Brazilian marching powder as well

Prem referee David Coote filmed 'snorting white powder' while 'working at Euro 2024'

he's obviously fallen out with his trusted film taker

Coote was suspended on Monday after a clip thought to have been filmed several years ago leaked. In that first clip, the match official was allegedly filmed calling Jurgen Klopp a 'German cunt', as well as blasting a Liverpool performance as "shit".

[LAM09 6,744]

It's inevitable there's so much going on within the PGMOL that will hopefully come to light in the coming weeks.

The English game is becoming a laughingstock.

[Vesper 28,796]

47 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Oh dear, Coote is filmed snorting Brazilian marching powder as well

Prem referee David Coote filmed 'snorting white powder' while 'working at Euro 2024'

he's obviously fallen out with his trusted film taker

Coote was suspended on Monday after a clip thought to have been filmed several years ago leaked. In that first clip, the match official was allegedly filmed calling Jurgen Klopp a 'German cunt', as well as blasting a Liverpool performance as "shit".

[Fulham Broadway 16,838]

26 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Haha we've all done it but not with rolled up dollar bills. Part of a payment by the Glazers ?

[NikkiCFC 7,946]

First cool ref in PL. 

[NikkiCFC 7,946]

On 11/11/2024 at 18:57, NikkiCFC said:

Even though I agree with him how stupid you have to be?

There's a answer. 

 

[Vesper 28,796]

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

There's a answer. 

 

btec refs

[Vesper 28,796]

Times Football

What Kazuo Ishiguro teaches us about Chelsea

 

Which novel popped into your head as you watched England’s victory over Ireland on Sunday? Because I assume one did. Would be odd if one didn’t.

OK, I’ll go first. Never Let Me Go by Kazuo Ishiguro is an unsettling book about a boarding school for cloned children whose sole purpose is to provide organs as needed for transplants. And it came to mind because there were so many products of Chelsea’s academy system in the team. The commentary from the sofa in my living room consisted of: “Oh a Chelsea reject,” and “Oh there’s another Chelsea reject.” 

We had the full backs Tino Livramento and Lewis Hall. We had Conor Gallagher who was replaced by Dominic Solanke. We had Marc Guéhi in defence. Was the term reject even the right one, we wondered, and if applicable then who could consider themselves the truest reject? Clearly it was Gallagher who was one of the most consistent players under Mauricio Pochettino last season and a player the fans loved who was, nonetheless, sold in the name of pure profit to Atletico Madrid last summer.

Hall and Livramento both made their England debuts in the final round of Nations League fixtures under Lee Carsley ROBIN JONES/GETTY IMAGES

The sale of home-grown players helps clubs remain within profit and sustainability rules and this is where the Ishiguro comes in. Chelsea’s Cobham production line is mightily impressive but while the kids being coached there might think they are being nurtured for the first team, most of the time their education is there to facilitate the purchase of ready-made talent from elsewhere. There are little bits of Cobham all over the place which is not too surprising given not all of them could fit into a single team, but it does make Chelsea the most influential of clubs and perhaps added to the sense of shared experience and joyful camaraderie that was so palpable at Wembley among the England players. In some ways Bournemouth embodies the opposite of Never Let Me Go. I was allowed an access-all-areas pass for the club a few weeks ago and noticed how many of the faces were familiar because so many never leave. I sat down with Shaun Cooper, a first team coach, and stood and watched training with Simon Francis, the technical director. Cooper was a Bournemouth defender for seven years, then pinged around the south coast before returning as a member of the staff. Francis also spent seven years as a defender with the club plus one out on loan and retired knowing he did not fancy coaching, but was fascinated by the role of technical director because he was close friends with Richard Hughes, who held that role while Francis was a player and who had himself been a former player at the Vitality Stadium.

Alyson Rudd catches up with Francis during her behind-the-scenes trip to Bournemouth ROBIN JONES FOR THE TIMES

You might want to argue that the club are being parochial, but the fact that Hughes is now sporting director for Liverpool instead indicates that Bournemouth might see the value in giving a chance to people who know and understand the club and who in turn they know and thereby see their potential. Francis spent three years learning the ropes about recruitment from Hughes before being promoted, which is surely preferable to a club losing a key member of staff and being forced into panic poaching from elsewhere. Which brings us back to Solanke, who came to Bournemouth via Chelsea and Liverpool and whose transfer to Tottenham Hotspur in August meant Francis was kept very busy finding a replacement, which he did a week later in the form of Evanilson but with an understanding of the needs of the squad and the manager. It would be nice to spend time behind the scenes at every club, but I won’t make that my New Year Resolution as not all of them are, I suspect, as well run as the Cherries.

 

 

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